buckmarkduck wrote:Cliff at 160-170 won't be drafted higher than 4th round, why would he leave? He needs to live in the weight room over the next 2 years and get up to at least 185 to be a first round pick. At his size right now NFL WR's would eat him alive. Could you imagine him lined up against Andre Johnson, Megatron or even Wes Welker. It would be ugly.
I hate to say it but Megatron and A.J. would dominate him. Cliff needs two more years to put on 20-25 pounds
Megatron and Andre Johnson dominate almost everyone...so that isn't the best comparison
I do think he needs to bulk up before he goes pro though.
I wonder how many we will take in 2012. Just glancing at the depth chart, here's my rough estimate of scholarships available:
1-2 QB
1 RB (LMJ could leave early too)
2 WR
3-4 OL
3-5 DL
2-3 LB (really depends where guys like French, Lyerla, and others end up)
2-3 DBs
0-1 K/P (Rice is a junior)
It's updated on December 10th, but one of the more respective NFL MockDraft sites has 2 ducks going high in the first ROUND. LaMichael at #21 and Cliff #15
What's this talk about Cliff Harris going 3rd round, 4th round because he's too skinny? Cliff is the most dominating CB at Oregon ever, and he's only been here for two seasons. Cliff will be a first or second round pick, no doubt. His special team skills give him a boost too in his stock.
Most dominate ever? No he's top 5 but he's not as good in coverage as WTIII, Bauman or Alex Molden(drafted #11 in '96) . And he's defiantly not better than Mel Renfro who is the NFL HOF. He could be, but lets get real, he still gets burned bad from time to time. Just watch the AZ game. Oregon has traditionally had some of the best corners around, and it's been outside of QB, our strongest position over the years.
Walter football also has Mallet and Locker in the 3rd round, he loses any kind of credit he had with that call.
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buckmarkduck wrote:Most dominate ever? No he's top 5 but he's not as good in coverage as WTIII, Bauman or Alex Molen(drafted #11 in '96) . And he's defiantly not better than Mel Renfro who is the NFL HOF. He could be, but lets get real, he still gets burned bad from time to time. Just watch the AZ game.
Walter football also has Mallet and Locker in the 3rd round, he loses any kind of credit he had with that call.
Arizona = one game. What about the rest of the seasons? What about his special teams boost? I remember USC tearing up the "Dboyz" when we visited LA. Arizona also worked Walter Thurmond in 2008. Bauman was awesome, and one of my favorite DBs at Oregon, but his lack of size always hurt him. Didn't Krohn throw for like 450 yards against the Ducks? I remember a certain receiver Bauman was guarding having a field day. Just saying, it happens to everyone. Cliff is special, he will be the GOAT when it's all said and done.
I've never seen Molen play, so I don't know about him.
I hope that mock draft becomes a reality, that'd be sweet. Cliff is probably a late first rounder right now.
That would really be something if he was drafted that high! He still needs to work on his run support but averaging 20yds per punt return will certainly add to his value.
Also, if that turns out true for LaMichael, then he clearly made a wise decision to return. He probably would have been mid-2nd round this year at best.
ncduck wrote:Arizona was 1 play. I'm not convinced that he wasn't expecting some safety help either that would have allowed him to jump the route.
I think he was expecting it because him, Boyett, and Coach Neal were seriously discussing something and they didn't have any coverage problems thereafter.
LMJ to the Cowboys would SUCK! Hope that dont happen. Saw where the guy had Paulson in the 3rd round. Cliff is good but I would not say he was better WT3 before knee injury. JMO
Lets say for those that never saw Molden play, they guy was a stud! In fact he and Wheaton where arguably are greatest corner combo ever. He was 5'11 195, and really to compare him to someone now I would say Quentin Jammer when he was at Texas. He was a 1st team AA and drafted 11th overall, and I think both of those speak to how good he was. He was a physical and was a blanket in coverage, and was a key to UO going to the Rose and Cotton bowls.
No he's top 5 but he's not as good in coverage as WTIII, Bauman or Alex Molden(drafted #11 in '96) . And he's defiantly not better than Mel Renfro who is the NFL HOF. He could be, but lets get real, he still gets burned bad from time to time. Just watch the AZ game. Oregon has traditionally had some of the best corners around, and it's been outside of QB, our strongest position over the years.
