Facilities-UO
Coaches-UO
Fan Support-UO
Elite team competing for the natty yearly-UO
Not on probation-UO
National Exposure-lately all UO unless you count negatives
Offense tailor mad to suite him-UO
Chance to win the natty NOW-UO
Amazing uni's and promotion-UO
Drugs & Gangs-U$C
Slimeball coaches-U$C
Smog & traffic-U$C
Drive by shootings-U$C
Weather-U$C
Still though, USC has:
Tradition This and 50 cents will get you a cup of coffee.
Hometown advantage (his parents could have gone to all of his games) Mom wanted him to get out of slumland.
Stronger academics Like 90% of the football players are really interested in that?
Hotter girls Guess you haven't been to Eugene.
LA > Eugene (and this comes from a LA kid who goes to the UofO
Stronger pro base
Bigger stage Yeah you play in a mausoleum. We are a phenominon.
Say what you want about USC, but the Trojans still have it going on. There's a reason why they signed a top 5 class while on probation. USC is a legit school. I'm a Duck fan who has hated USC for as long as I can remember, and even I can see that. Let's not get irrational over this kind of stuff.
Irrational. Whatever Cali boy
"To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine
Tradition -- Being a legend at USC > being a legend at Oregon to most casual fans. It's just how it is. People are more likely to remember USC greats than Oregon greats. I don't like it either, but that's the way it is.
Hometown Advantage -- DAT said his mom didn't want him to leave. Plus he would have been able to have his family watch him play. It's tough to beat that. Plus USC's campus is super nice. The neighborhood around it isn't, but the campus is sweet.
Stronger academics -- DAT said he wanted to earn his degree. A degree at USC carries more weight than a degree from Oregon. I'm a UO student and I can't even dispute that.
Hotter girls -- Um, I go to school in Eugene. This isn't even close. Where do you think most of the hot girls come from? If you make it on down to USC's campus, you will be blown away. It's just ridiculous over there. There are lots of hotties here, but LA is just on a different level.
Bigger Stage -- by this I mean you're playing on the largest market this side of the mississippi. If you succeed in LA, you will succeed and be known everywhere. USC has a name and a brand which Oregon is trying to catch up to.
I know I'm sounding like a USC apologist, but I'm trying to be objective. You just seem like a blatant hater who can't see reason. As I said, there's a bunch of good reasons why USC dominates SoCal recruiting. I'm merely pointing them out. Feel free to dismiss me as a "Cali boy." You'll just come off as irrational and patronizing. At least make an attempt to look at CFB from lenses that aren't tinted Green and Yellow.
Tradition -- Being a legend at USC > being a legend at Oregon to most casual fans. It's just how it is. People are more likely to remember USC greats than Oregon greats. I don't like it either, but that's the way it is.
Hometown Advantage -- DAT said his mom didn't want him to leave. Plus he would have been able to have his family watch him play. It's tough to beat that. Plus USC's campus is super nice. The neighborhood around it isn't, but the campus is sweet.
Stronger academics -- DAT said he wanted to earn his degree. A degree at USC carries more weight than a degree from Oregon. I'm a UO student and I can't even dispute that.
Hotter girls -- Um, I go to school in Eugene. This isn't even close. Where do you think most of the hot girls come from? If you make it on down to USC's campus, you will be blown away. It's just ridiculous over there. There are lots of hotties here, but LA is just on a different level.
Bigger Stage -- by this I mean you're playing on the largest market this side of the mississippi. If you succeed in LA, you will succeed and be known everywhere. USC has a name and a brand which Oregon is trying to catch up to.
I know I'm sounding like a USC apologist, but I'm trying to be objective. You just seem like a blatant hater who can't see reason. As I said, there's a bunch of good reasons why USC dominates SoCal recruiting. I'm merely pointing them out. Feel free to dismiss me as a "Cali boy." You'll just come off as irrational and patronizing. At least make an attempt to look at CFB from lenses that aren't tinted Green and Yellow.
I've got a question for ya....... Why the hell did you even waste your time going to UO ?
Tradition -- Being a legend at USC > being a legend at Oregon to most casual fans. It's just how it is. People are more likely to remember USC greats than Oregon greats. I don't like it either, but that's the way it is.
Hometown Advantage -- DAT said his mom didn't want him to leave. Plus he would have been able to have his family watch him play. It's tough to beat that. Plus USC's campus is super nice. The neighborhood around it isn't, but the campus is sweet.
Stronger academics -- DAT said he wanted to earn his degree. A degree at USC carries more weight than a degree from Oregon. I'm a UO student and I can't even dispute that.
Hotter girls -- Um, I go to school in Eugene. This isn't even close. Where do you think most of the hot girls come from? If you make it on down to USC's campus, you will be blown away. It's just ridiculous over there. There are lots of hotties here, but LA is just on a different level.
Bigger Stage -- by this I mean you're playing on the largest market this side of the mississippi. If you succeed in LA, you will succeed and be known everywhere. USC has a name and a brand which Oregon is trying to catch up to.
I know I'm sounding like a USC apologist, but I'm trying to be objective. You just seem like a blatant hater who can't see reason. As I said, there's a bunch of good reasons why USC dominates SoCal recruiting. I'm merely pointing them out. Feel free to dismiss me as a "Cali boy." You'll just come off as irrational and patronizing. At least make an attempt to look at CFB from lenses that aren't tinted Green and Yellow.
I've got a question for ya....... Why the hell did you even waste your time going to UO ?
Because I love it. I've lived in LA all my life and wanted to go somewhere else. I've been a Duck fan for forever, loved my visit up there when I was a HS junior (2007 Oregon vs. ASU), had friends who went to UO and loved it. Oregon was always the perfect fit for me.
What I don't understand is how people look at somebody complementing a rival (seriously, what did I write that was inaccurate or unfounded?) and automatically assume that I'm a USC fanboy or some sort of troll. I hate USC. USC is my least favorite school and I hope they never win a game. I made a post (my 2nd post perhaps?) where I railed against the entitlement the average USC fan feels over other fans such as Oregon's. But just because I hate a school doesn't mean I can't appreciate it's history, it's advantages over my school, and it's contribution to CFB over the past decade. USC produced some of the greatest football in a generation less than ten years ago. Do I like it? Hell no, but at least I'm objective enough to appreciate it as great football. I don't let my hate for any program blind me from objectivity and rational thought. Is that such a bad thing?
Tradition -- Being a legend at USC > being a legend at Oregon to most casual fans. It's just how it is. People are more likely to remember USC greats than Oregon greats. I don't like it either, but that's the way it is.
Hometown Advantage -- DAT said his mom didn't want him to leave. Plus he would have been able to have his family watch him play. It's tough to beat that. Plus USC's campus is super nice. The neighborhood around it isn't, but the campus is sweet.
Stronger academics -- DAT said he wanted to earn his degree. A degree at USC carries more weight than a degree from Oregon. I'm a UO student and I can't even dispute that.
Hotter girls -- Um, I go to school in Eugene. This isn't even close. Where do you think most of the hot girls come from? If you make it on down to USC's campus, you will be blown away. It's just ridiculous over there. There are lots of hotties here, but LA is just on a different level.
Bigger Stage -- by this I mean you're playing on the largest market this side of the mississippi. If you succeed in LA, you will succeed and be known everywhere. USC has a name and a brand which Oregon is trying to catch up to.
I know I'm sounding like a USC apologist, but I'm trying to be objective. You just seem like a blatant hater who can't see reason. As I said, there's a bunch of good reasons why USC dominates SoCal recruiting. I'm merely pointing them out. Feel free to dismiss me as a "Cali boy." You'll just come off as irrational and patronizing. At least make an attempt to look at CFB from lenses that aren't tinted Green and Yellow.
I've got a question for ya....... Why the hell did you even waste your time going to UO ?
Because I love it. I've lived in LA all my life and wanted to go somewhere else. I've been a Duck fan for forever, loved my visit up there when I was a HS junior (2007 Oregon vs. ASU), had friends who went to UO and loved it. Oregon was always the perfect fit for me.
What I don't understand is how people look at somebody complementing a rival (seriously, what did I write that was inaccurate or unfounded?) and automatically assume that I'm a USC fanboy or some sort of troll. I hate USC. USC is my least favorite school and I hope they never win a game. I made a post (my 2nd post perhaps?) where I railed against the entitlement the average USC fan feels over other fans such as Oregon's. But just because I hate a school doesn't mean I can't appreciate it's history, it's advantages over my school, and it's contribution to CFB over the past decade. USC produced some of the greatest football in a generation less than ten years ago. Do I like it? Hell no, but at least I'm objective enough to appreciate it as great football. I don't let my hate for any program blind me from objectivity and rational thought. Is that such a bad thing?
Yes, god damn it man dont you know that irrational hatred is all we accept here!?!? I kid, I kid. I think you make good points. That being said there are certainly excellent reasons to attend UO over SC (some of which you allude to above), especially kids coming from DAT's socioeconomic environment.
c'mon guys... souther cal is a great school with a lot of tradition. it's in los angeles.
socal might not be your ideal place to live on the planet, but mostly that's cause everyone and their brother moved to california in the second half of the xxth century.
oregon is great because it's a lot like california was 50 years ago. except for the weather... which is still fucking awesome compared to somewhere like new york or paris.
be thankful, too, that oregon weather is rainy in the winter b/c otherwise it would be just as overun as los angeles!
vagusnerve wrote:c'mon guys... souther cal is a great school with a lot of tradition. it's in los angeles.
socal might not be your ideal place to live on the planet, but mostly that's cause everyone and their brother moved to california in the second half of the xxth century.
oregon is great because it's a lot like california was 50 years ago. except for the weather... which is still fucking awesome compared to somewhere like new york or paris.
be thankful, too, that oregon weather is rainy in the winter b/c otherwise it would be just as overun as los angeles!
Agreed. Both are great schools and places to live. Me? I'm an Oregonian. But I could easily see why people want to live in LA. If it wasn't a good place to live, they wouldn't have a kajillion more people there than here!
It's not too hard to say both schools have blatant advantages over the others.
Tradition -- Being a legend at USC > being a legend at Oregon to most casual fans. It's just how it is. People are more likely to remember USC greats than Oregon greats. I don't like it either, but that's the way it is.
Hometown Advantage -- DAT said his mom didn't want him to leave. Plus he would have been able to have his family watch him play. It's tough to beat that. Plus USC's campus is super nice. The neighborhood around it isn't, but the campus is sweet.
Stronger academics -- DAT said he wanted to earn his degree. A degree at USC carries more weight than a degree from Oregon. I'm a UO student and I can't even dispute that.
Hotter girls -- Um, I go to school in Eugene. This isn't even close. Where do you think most of the hot girls come from? If you make it on down to USC's campus, you will be blown away. It's just ridiculous over there. There are lots of hotties here, but LA is just on a different level.
Bigger Stage -- by this I mean you're playing on the largest market this side of the mississippi. If you succeed in LA, you will succeed and be known everywhere. USC has a name and a brand which Oregon is trying to catch up to.
I know I'm sounding like a USC apologist, but I'm trying to be objective. You just seem like a blatant hater who can't see reason. As I said, there's a bunch of good reasons why USC dominates SoCal recruiting. I'm merely pointing them out. Feel free to dismiss me as a "Cali boy." You'll just come off as irrational and patronizing. At least make an attempt to look at CFB from lenses that aren't tinted Green and Yellow.
I've got a question for ya....... Why the hell did you even waste your time going to UO ?
Because I love it. I've lived in LA all my life and wanted to go somewhere else. I've been a Duck fan for forever, loved my visit up there when I was a HS junior (2007 Oregon vs. ASU), had friends who went to UO and loved it. Oregon was always the perfect fit for me.
What I don't understand is how people look at somebody complementing a rival (seriously, what did I write that was inaccurate or unfounded?) and automatically assume that I'm a USC fanboy or some sort of troll. I hate USC. USC is my least favorite school and I hope they never win a game. I made a post (my 2nd post perhaps?) where I railed against the entitlement the average USC fan feels over other fans such as Oregon's. But just because I hate a school doesn't mean I can't appreciate it's history, it's advantages over my school, and it's contribution to CFB over the past decade. USC produced some of the greatest football in a generation less than ten years ago. Do I like it? Hell no, but at least I'm objective enough to appreciate it as great football. I don't let my hate for any program blind me from objectivity and rational thought. Is that such a bad thing?
The only thing I can say is that after the laundry list of reasons why USC might be more desirable, I find it interesting that you wouldn't think the recruits might come to Oregon and have the same feelings you did. Oregon isn't for everyone, just like LA isn't for everyone. We won't get every recruit, but we will get the ones that love Oregon and want to be a duck. That's a fair trade off for me.
I think the biggest reason a recruit would want to come to Oregon from So Cal...is So Cal. Lots of gang problems etc. It isnt hard to see why kids leave there...on the flip side it isnt hard to see why they would stay there and play. I cant stand Kiffen. I dont mind USC. UW, to me, is all that I dislike in college sports. JMO.
Tradition -- Being a legend at USC > being a legend at Oregon to most casual fans. It's just how it is. People are more likely to remember USC greats than Oregon greats. I don't like it either, but that's the way it is.
Hometown Advantage -- DAT said his mom didn't want him to leave. Plus he would have been able to have his family watch him play. It's tough to beat that. Plus USC's campus is super nice. The neighborhood around it isn't, but the campus is sweet.
Stronger academics -- DAT said he wanted to earn his degree. A degree at USC carries more weight than a degree from Oregon. I'm a UO student and I can't even dispute that.
Hotter girls -- Um, I go to school in Eugene. This isn't even close. Where do you think most of the hot girls come from? If you make it on down to USC's campus, you will be blown away. It's just ridiculous over there. There are lots of hotties here, but LA is just on a different level.
Bigger Stage -- by this I mean you're playing on the largest market this side of the mississippi. If you succeed in LA, you will succeed and be known everywhere. USC has a name and a brand which Oregon is trying to catch up to.
I know I'm sounding like a USC apologist, but I'm trying to be objective. You just seem like a blatant hater who can't see reason. As I said, there's a bunch of good reasons why USC dominates SoCal recruiting. I'm merely pointing them out. Feel free to dismiss me as a "Cali boy." You'll just come off as irrational and patronizing. At least make an attempt to look at CFB from lenses that aren't tinted Green and Yellow.
I've got a question for ya....... Why the hell did you even waste your time going to UO ?
Because I love it. I've lived in LA all my life and wanted to go somewhere else. I've been a Duck fan for forever, loved my visit up there when I was a HS junior (2007 Oregon vs. ASU), had friends who went to UO and loved it. Oregon was always the perfect fit for me.
What I don't understand is how people look at somebody complementing a rival (seriously, what did I write that was inaccurate or unfounded?) and automatically assume that I'm a USC fanboy or some sort of troll. I hate USC. USC is my least favorite school and I hope they never win a game. I made a post (my 2nd post perhaps?) where I railed against the entitlement the average USC fan feels over other fans such as Oregon's. But just because I hate a school doesn't mean I can't appreciate it's history, it's advantages over my school, and it's contribution to CFB over the past decade. USC produced some of the greatest football in a generation less than ten years ago. Do I like it? Hell no, but at least I'm objective enough to appreciate it as great football. I don't let my hate for any program blind me from objectivity and rational thought. Is that such a bad thing?
The only thing I can say is that after the laundry list of reasons why USC might be more desirable, I find it interesting that you wouldn't think the recruits might come to Oregon and have the same feelings you did. Oregon isn't for everyone, just like LA isn't for everyone. We won't get every recruit, but we will get the ones that love Oregon and want to be a duck. That's a fair trade off for me.
Well, where it all started was when somebody made a list of pros and cons between the two schools, and USC's pros were stuff like "drugs & gangs," "slimeball coaches," "driveby shootings" and the like. That's where I came in saying no, USC does have legitimate advantages, and then when he replied I replied. As I said earlier, I'm no USC apologist but to say USC is only good for drive by shootings and slimeball coaches is a bit ridiculous.
headshottzzzz wrote:
Well, where it all started was when somebody made a list of pros and cons between the two schools, and USC's pros were stuff like "drugs & gangs," "slimeball coaches," "driveby shootings" and the like. That's where I came in saying no, USC does have legitimate advantages, and then when he replied I replied. As I said earlier, I'm no USC apologist but to say USC is only good for drive by shootings and slimeball coaches is a bit ridiculous.
I think the other poster was being sarcastic, I'm sure he realizes USC has its advantages.
Didnt we have this exact same "argument" about Cal v UO a while back? Jeez... there's pros and cons to every situation/school/program/campus/life style... Dont hate on the guy for bringing up a few pros about SC (or Cal)... both SC and Cal are great schools in awesome locations with lots of advantages UO doesn't have... Oregon offers some things those schools dont... two sides to every coin.
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Tradition -- Being a legend at USC > being a legend at Oregon to most casual fans. It's just how it is. People are more likely to remember USC greats than Oregon greats. I don't like it either, but that's the way it is.
Hometown Advantage -- DAT said his mom didn't want him to leave. Plus he would have been able to have his family watch him play. It's tough to beat that. Plus USC's campus is super nice. The neighborhood around it isn't, but the campus is sweet.
Stronger academics -- DAT said he wanted to earn his degree. A degree at USC carries more weight than a degree from Oregon. I'm a UO student and I can't even dispute that.
Hotter girls -- Um, I go to school in Eugene. This isn't even close. Where do you think most of the hot girls come from? If you make it on down to USC's campus, you will be blown away. It's just ridiculous over there. There are lots of hotties here, but LA is just on a different level.
Bigger Stage -- by this I mean you're playing on the largest market this side of the mississippi. If you succeed in LA, you will succeed and be known everywhere. USC has a name and a brand which Oregon is trying to catch up to.
I know I'm sounding like a USC apologist, but I'm trying to be objective. You just seem like a blatant hater who can't see reason. As I said, there's a bunch of good reasons why USC dominates SoCal recruiting. I'm merely pointing them out. Feel free to dismiss me as a "Cali boy." You'll just come off as irrational and patronizing. At least make an attempt to look at CFB from lenses that aren't tinted Green and Yellow.
I've got a question for ya....... Why the hell did you even waste your time going to UO ?
UO is filled with cali kids who can't get admitted in to their schools (UCLA, Cal, ect.).
This is really the only reason why UO hasn't gone private yet.
Could be true Bumi, but Eugene libs do everything they can to keep Eugene from growing. What they can't stop is UO from dragging it into the 2011. I think the surrounding area will grow though, and actually the city of Eugene is decent size 167,000 compare that to Salt Lake that is 181,000. It's the metro area that is small.