Pac-12/Big 10/Big 12 Realignment

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Quietduck wrote:Now the California governor wants to have the final say on UCLA's move. What kind of monkey wrench is this going to cause?
Probably opens the door for Stanford more than Oregon.
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webfoots2001 wrote:
Quietduck wrote:Now the California governor wants to have the final say on UCLA's move. What kind of monkey wrench is this going to cause?
Probably opens the door for Stanford more than Oregon.
No, even though Stanford is private they don't draw any eyeballs and this still has like 2.5 years to play out before they actually switch.

I don't think their argument about the travel concerns for a student-athlete will pass because they weren't concerned about those issues and the serious lack of free time that student-athletes had prior. It also presumes a lack of free will on the part of those student-athletes who may prefer to play with the extra exposure.

IF its entirely about the "spirit of competition" than replacing LA with San Diego State and San Jose State would still bring out competition in smaller, olympic sports but they don't like that idea because they're just upset about the $.

There isn't a good argument for why UCLA shouldn't leave for that much money.
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Duck07 wrote:
webfoots2001 wrote:
Quietduck wrote:Now the California governor wants to have the final say on UCLA's move. What kind of monkey wrench is this going to cause?
Probably opens the door for Stanford more than Oregon.
No, even though Stanford is private they don't draw any eyeballs and this still has like 2.5 years to play out before they actually switch.

I don't think their argument about the travel concerns for a student-athlete will pass because they weren't concerned about those issues and the serious lack of free time that student-athletes had prior. It also presumes a lack of free will on the part of those student-athletes who may prefer to play with the extra exposure.

IF its entirely about the "spirit of competition" than replacing LA with San Diego State and San Jose State would still bring out competition in smaller, olympic sports but they don't like that idea because they're just upset about the $.

There isn't a good argument for why UCLA shouldn't leave for that much money.
Economic impact is a reason, legal and enough? Who knows?
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Quietduck wrote:Now the California governor wants to have the final say on UCLA's move. What kind of monkey wrench is this going to cause?
Lol

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UOducksTK1 wrote:
Quietduck wrote:Now the California governor wants to have the final say on UCLA's move. What kind of monkey wrench is this going to cause?
Lol
It won't happen but can you imagine how crappy it would be for either UCLA or USC if they then got stuck in the Pac. Lol.
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JIDuck97 wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:
Quietduck wrote:Now the California governor wants to have the final say on UCLA's move. What kind of monkey wrench is this going to cause?
Lol
It won't happen but can you imagine how crappy it would be for either UCLA or USC if they then got stuck in the Pac. Lol.
That would be the happy ending lol
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DuckzRule wrote:
JIDuck97 wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:
Quietduck wrote:Now the California governor wants to have the final say on UCLA's move. What kind of monkey wrench is this going to cause?
Lol
It won't happen but can you imagine how crappy it would be for either UCLA or USC if they then got stuck in the Pac. Lol.
That would be the happy ending lol
That would be sweet karma.
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The UCLA AD is broke. All this Big10 money is a miracle for them. Yanking UCLA out of this would be kind of like arresting a suspect on the set of Queen For a Day.
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According to ESPN, apparently the Big 12 won't add any Pac-12 schools, so it means the conference will probably stay the way it is after USC and UCLA move.

So if Oregon is indeed planning to leave the conference too, they're toast since I doubt they enter the Big Ten or SEC.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... cially-end
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The Pac-12 is going to be raided by the Big 12 in the near future, especially if Kliavkoff can't get a good enough media deal.
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DuckzRule wrote:According to ESPN, apparently the Big 12 won't add any Pac-12 schools, so it means the conference will probably stay the way it is after USC and UCLA move.

So if Oregon is indeed planning to leave the conference too, they're toast since I doubt they enter the Big Ten or SEC.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... cially-end
Lots of ESPN posturing here.
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Why would Oregon want to go to the Big-12? Why would any Pac-12 school? It really doesn't make sense because the money wouldn't be any better. Seems to be the only GOOD money move would be jumping to the B1G... and, sadly, the rest of the Pac is on the outside looking in on that one -- Oregon included.

Sure, from a competition and branding perspective, Oregon going to the B1G seems like a no-brainer. The Ducks should be in one of the two superconferences, if that's the way the sport is going.

But it's all about the TV money, and Oregon's footprint doesn't have the sets. It's that simple. All we can really do is be ready if the B1G comes calling. Same goes for any other Pac-12 school.

I think it's far more likely that the Pac-12 adds a couple of new schools (San Diego State comes to mind unless the Big-12 grabs them first).

Agree with JC though that we'll probably know more before media day.
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DuckzRule wrote:According to ESPN, apparently the Big 12 won't add any Pac-12 schools, so it means the conference will probably stay the way it is after USC and UCLA move.

So if Oregon is indeed planning to leave the conference too, they're toast since I doubt they enter the Big Ten or SEC.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... cially-end
Be careful about how you interpret this. The report was that the Big 12 and Pac12 will not be merging, it said nothing about pac12 schools changing conferences. Pac12 might still get poached.
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webfoots2001 wrote:
Quietduck wrote:Now the California governor wants to have the final say on UCLA's move. What kind of monkey wrench is this going to cause?
Probably opens the door for Stanford more than Oregon.
Why? Stanford is not part of the UC system and the govenor has no jurisdiction over them.
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lmduck wrote:
webfoots2001 wrote:
Quietduck wrote:Now the California governor wants to have the final say on UCLA's move. What kind of monkey wrench is this going to cause?
Probably opens the door for Stanford more than Oregon.
Why? Stanford is not part of the UC system and the govenor has no jurisdiction over them.
If UCLA can't go, the Big Ten could choose Stanford over Oregon so they add the Bay Area TV market.
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