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Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:24 pm
by Boom
I would actually bump them all up a little.

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:29 pm
by rpmunn
I definately think rice is low. He was a career 40% three point shooter. Although his rookie year was his worst shooting year.

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:31 pm
by Phenom
Then it seems his shooting is underrated.

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:36 pm
by pudgejeff
Boom wrote:
lukeyrid13 wrote:
Boom wrote:Drazen was easily the best scorer/player out of all of the guards. So I don't necessarily have a problem with how the other guys are ranked.
Hardaway put up 23 and 10 his second season
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dra%C5%BEen_Petrovi%C4%87
Petro, as the Americans had dubbed him, averaged 20.6 points in 36.9 minutes on the floor, nearly leading all NBA guards in field goal percentage (51%). He did not miss a single game; he established himself as the team leader; and he was named team MVP. More significantly, his success translated into team success, as the Nets recorded 14 more wins than the season before and made the playoffs. The following, 1992–93 season, Petrović increased his scoring average (22.3, 11th best that season) and repeated his three-point field goal percentage from the previous season (45%), again nearly leading all guards in field goal percentage (52%)

His field goal percentages were crazy good.
Those were his 3rd and 4th seasons in the league though.

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:39 pm
by pudgejeff
Zyme wrote:
pudgejeff wrote:
Zyme wrote:Top 3 are Robinson, then Drazen or Sabas depending on your style or team need. Beyond that it is really hard.
Ya, it's rough. Guess just gotta hope for the lottery Jackpot. I was surprised to see Glenn Rice wasn't a better scorer.
With Drazen in there I really didn't see need to put in another volume scorer. Cliffy could probably develop into a top 2 option for a team.
So the 4th or 5th pick, might be able to develop into a 2nd option? Maybe I don't understand this sim thing very well, but it sounds like it'll be a lot like the last one where all the veterans that started in the game will dominate as all of the guys coming in are severely underrated and only 1 or 2 guys per draft can actually contribute.

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:40 pm
by Boom
pudgejeff wrote:
Boom wrote:
lukeyrid13 wrote:
Boom wrote:Drazen was easily the best scorer/player out of all of the guards. So I don't necessarily have a problem with how the other guys are ranked.
Hardaway put up 23 and 10 his second season
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dra%C5%BEen_Petrovi%C4%87
Petro, as the Americans had dubbed him, averaged 20.6 points in 36.9 minutes on the floor, nearly leading all NBA guards in field goal percentage (51%). He did not miss a single game; he established himself as the team leader; and he was named team MVP. More significantly, his success translated into team success, as the Nets recorded 14 more wins than the season before and made the playoffs. The following, 1992–93 season, Petrović increased his scoring average (22.3, 11th best that season) and repeated his three-point field goal percentage from the previous season (45%), again nearly leading all guards in field goal percentage (52%)

His field goal percentages were crazy good.
Those were his 3rd and 4th seasons in the league though.
His shooting percentages were always really high for a guard. He didn't get minutes until he was traded out of Portland.

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:42 pm
by lukeyrid13
^ He did suffer the Jermaine O'Neal treatment.

It was stated that Drazen was clearly the best scorer though, I was pointing out that Hardaway averaged as much if not more, and two years earlier. I'm cool with Drazen being good, he lit it up in New Jersey but Hardaway was a total stud also.

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:00 pm
by Boom
I'm not sure if you can 'gripe" a draft file... but I would bump Petro's outside shooting to an A-, Rice's outside shooting up to a B, and Hardaway's inside scoring to a B and his handle up to an A-/B+.

And I would lower Mookie Blayock's scoring a little.

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:03 pm
by Phenom
I agree. You guys severly underranked some guys.

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:03 pm
by pudgejeff
lukeyrid13 wrote:^ He did suffer the Jermaine O'Neal treatment.

It was stated that Drazen was clearly the best scorer though, I was pointing out that Hardaway averaged as much if not more, and two years earlier. I'm cool with Drazen being good, he lit it up in New Jersey but Hardaway was a total stud also.
Hardaway was ridic early in his carrer, dat utep 2step.

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:27 pm
by lukeyrid13
Hardaway averaged 14 or more his first 11 seasons and was over 20ppg in 5 of those.

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:56 pm
by Brophdog88
Guys, trust me when I say, the underneath ratings mean a lot more than what you see. C+ C+ for Rice is maybe low, but you want ratings to stay low as long as possible, and he could easily develop to B A- from those if not better, all depends on potential. That is a pretty solid wing really (B A- is a safe guess)

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:59 pm
by Brophdog88
Tim has great ratings with C+ inside as a PG, outside is pretty easy to develop, but C spans a massive region for inside, starting with C+ on PG is great.

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:00 pm
by Brophdog88
a B- B B A- C- PG can be dominant pretty easily, especially in a league with low ratings like this one

Re: Draft Preview 89

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:14 am
by UOducksTK1
Potential. Potential. Potential. I'll tell you right now that guys like Glen Rice are pretty much maxed out.