if either of these happen, it'll say a lot about Kenny Payne. he's maintained contact and kept these kids interest in oregon w/o a head coach...that's impressive. finally, he can tell these kids to come check out the head coach, or that the head coach is coming to see them.woundedknees wrote:If Altman manages to get Polee at this late stage of the game, that will be big... Salvaging either of the Terrances at this point would be absolutely huge.
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Soduck!
Excellent job. Well done. True on all counts. Especially the part about losing to the crotch pelts, back to back.
I'm quite pleased with the hire. Let's all now sit back, and enjoy the ride, and see where this goes.
I can't wait to hear him speak at Oregon Club here in Eugene. Going to be a lot of fun.
Excellent job. Well done. True on all counts. Especially the part about losing to the crotch pelts, back to back.
I'm quite pleased with the hire. Let's all now sit back, and enjoy the ride, and see where this goes.
I can't wait to hear him speak at Oregon Club here in Eugene. Going to be a lot of fun.

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11/20 win seasons in a row, been to the Big Dance 8 times, and the NIT 7 times, mostly from a private school half the size of Oregon. Only 3 of those combined appearances came before his tenure at Creighton, so 12 times in legitimate post-season play (I deliberately didn't bring up this year's appearance in this year's CRI [Craig Robinson Invitational.Tray Dub wrote:Well, I'll certainly be open-minded, but... What exactly are his credentials? He took a mid-major to the dance less than 50% of the time? I don't remember Creighton being a team worth hearing about since... well, a while ago anyways. I didn't need a big name coach, but I would have liked someone who had more success than Altman. I'm not saying he'll be a bad coach, I just don't see anything that really indicates that.
I'm not saying it's a home run, but that's not a bad record.
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solid hire...the bad press over the winter, the pressure of stepping into a position with the expectations of filling a new arena and pleasing the Nike gods at the same time, well that has to be a great pressure. Not to mention fan expectations of a turnaround after what Duck basketball has suffered over the past few seasons.
An "A" for balls on his part if he accepts this position.
An "A" for balls on his part if he accepts this position.
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Tray Dub wrote:Well, I'll certainly be open-minded, but... What exactly are his credentials? He took a mid-major to the dance less than 50% of the time? I don't remember Creighton being a team worth hearing about since... well, a while ago anyways. I didn't need a big name coach, but I would have liked someone who had more success than Altman. I'm not saying he'll be a bad coach, I just don't see anything that really indicates that.
He has a ton of experience, and what he did at Creighton is pretty darn impressive. A lot of good coaches start at mid major conferences. Over the years, he was coveted by teams like Iowa, Illinois, Wake Forest, Arkansas and Tennessee. Remember that people wanted Mark Turgeon, and look where he started.

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all we have are the reports. we have not heard him speak, seen him
on the bench. all we have is past record. Let's give him a chance.
Let's give him time. the true measure wont be until his team is all
players he's recruited. He will have to adjust to the players left. There is
still talent here. Lets see if he can coach the current players up.
I'm excited to see what he can do. I think he will be a stand up guy.
Go Ducks!!!
on the bench. all we have is past record. Let's give him a chance.
Let's give him time. the true measure wont be until his team is all
players he's recruited. He will have to adjust to the players left. There is
still talent here. Lets see if he can coach the current players up.
I'm excited to see what he can do. I think he will be a stand up guy.
Go Ducks!!!
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Response to Wounded and duckgrad:
To have gone to the Dance 8 times in 16 or so years is pretty good, but in the 21 years he's been a head coach he has never made it to the Sweet Sixteen. My problem isn't that he's a mid-major coach. It's that his record, in my opinion, is not "pretty damn impressive". It's good, but I was hoping for a more successful coach. Instead, we got a 52 year old who has never made a real run in the NCAA tourney.
Again, I hate to be negative about this and I really will give him a real chance and I'll keep my mind open. But, of literally every coach who has been mentioned, this is the least exciting choice to me.
To have gone to the Dance 8 times in 16 or so years is pretty good, but in the 21 years he's been a head coach he has never made it to the Sweet Sixteen. My problem isn't that he's a mid-major coach. It's that his record, in my opinion, is not "pretty damn impressive". It's good, but I was hoping for a more successful coach. Instead, we got a 52 year old who has never made a real run in the NCAA tourney.
Again, I hate to be negative about this and I really will give him a real chance and I'll keep my mind open. But, of literally every coach who has been mentioned, this is the least exciting choice to me.
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Tray Dub wrote:Response to Wounded and duckgrad:
To have gone to the Dance 8 times in 16 or so years is pretty good, but in the 21 years he's been a head coach he has never made it to the Sweet Sixteen. My problem isn't that he's a mid-major coach. It's that his record, in my opinion, is not "pretty damn impressive". It's good, but I was hoping for a more successful coach. Instead, we got a 52 year old who has never made a real run in the NCAA tourney.
Again, I hate to be negative about this and I really will give him a real chance and I'll keep my mind open. But, of literally every coach who has been mentioned, this is the least exciting choice to me.
You arent askin for much..Geez.....
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How many sweet 16 did Montgomery go to before Stanford? How about Romar? Those are 2 of the top 3 coaches in the conference right now so I would put him at about #5 right now, that's a step up from #9.
In fact Montgomery has been a HC since 1978 and has made the sweet 16 or better just 3 times! And he is considered the 2nd best coach in the Pac 10.
In fact Montgomery has been a HC since 1978 and has made the sweet 16 or better just 3 times! And he is considered the 2nd best coach in the Pac 10.
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His post season record is what troubles me. A record of 2-7 (NCAA) and 3-5 (NIT) is lackluster at best but I don't know where Creighton was seeded in their tourney appearances. Losing all those games as a 15 against a 2 is a lot different than an 8 against a 9. The good news is his style puts fans in the seats, which Oregon desperately needs. He also apparently gets quality kids who graduate.Tray Dub wrote:Response to Wounded and duckgrad:
To have gone to the Dance 8 times in 16 or so years is pretty good, but in the 21 years he's been a head coach he has never made it to the Sweet Sixteen. My problem isn't that he's a mid-major coach. It's that his record, in my opinion, is not "pretty damn impressive". It's good, but I was hoping for a more successful coach. Instead, we got a 52 year old who has never made a real run in the NCAA tourney.
Again, I hate to be negative about this and I really will give him a real chance and I'll keep my mind open. But, of literally every coach who has been mentioned, this is the least exciting choice to me.
We should have a pretty good idea how good this hire is in about 3 years.
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Agreed with maxduck. Not saying he'll be a bad coach, just saying I'm not astounded or even excited about the resume he brings.
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maxduck wrote:His post season record is what troubles me. A record of 2-7 (NCAA) and 3-5 (NIT) is lackluster at best but I don't know where Creighton was seeded in their tourney appearances. Losing all those games as a 15 against a 2 is a lot different than an 8 against a 9. The good news is his style puts fans in the seats, which Oregon desperately needs. He also apparently gets quality kids who graduate.Tray Dub wrote:Response to Wounded and duckgrad:
To have gone to the Dance 8 times in 16 or so years is pretty good, but in the 21 years he's been a head coach he has never made it to the Sweet Sixteen. My problem isn't that he's a mid-major coach. It's that his record, in my opinion, is not "pretty damn impressive". It's good, but I was hoping for a more successful coach. Instead, we got a 52 year old who has never made a real run in the NCAA tourney.
Again, I hate to be negative about this and I really will give him a real chance and I'll keep my mind open. But, of literally every coach who has been mentioned, this is the least exciting choice to me.
We should have a pretty good idea how good this hire is in about 3 years.
With Creighton being a relatively quiet mid-major, I doubt they ever saw anything other than a top seed in their NCAA tourney visits...More than likely they played a Kansas, NC State, Duke, Indiana, or UCLA quality opponent...
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Seems like a decent hire to me. A reputation as a solid X's and O's guy, which Ernie was not. Just wish the UO would have realized what we are as a basketball school long ago and not wasted so much time getting other coaches raises. I think we all need to swallow the bitter pill that Oregon is simply not a destination for a proven, top tier coach, regardless of our affiliations. The humility will do us all a bit of good me thinks.
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Oregon has had a competitive basketball program for many years...The last two, not so much...Apparently you either werent around or werent paying attention during the days of the Kamakazee Kids, or more recently with the teams sporting the talents of Alex Scales, Freddie Jones, the two Lukes, etc. No we were not and probably never will be a Duke or UCLA quality powerhouse, but to make a statement of "what we are as a basketball school" is nothing short of rediculous. Man, I surely wouldnt want you havin my back in the trenches...Put your white flag down and dont be negative. We compete, and some years at a very high level. And to think that with our new facilities, our financial successes and backing, that we may not attract the attention of a high level coach is .....well, u fill in the blank....You shoot for the moon and the stars....and maybe, just maybe someday, you will achieve your goals.dereknad wrote:Seems like a decent hire to me. A reputation as a solid X's and O's guy, which Ernie was not. Just wish the UO would have realized what we are as a basketball school long ago and not wasted so much time getting other coaches raises. I think we all need to swallow the bitter pill that Oregon is simply not a destination for a proven, top tier coach, regardless of our affiliations. The humility will do us all a bit of good me thinks.
To excel, one has to shoot for the moon and the stars, not play around in a wagon all your life....
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I was not around for the Kamakazee Kids. How deep did they run? I was a UO student during the early 90's. Green ball. What a joke. We'd stick around until we were down by 30 then call it good. Kenya Wilkins was fun to watch but other than that, sheesh. Had a good upset against UCLA, but basketball wise nothing much to remember. Oh yeah, loved the runs we made with the Lukes and Freddie, but that was an anamoly. Ask anybody else in the country about Duck basketball. Huh?ducksrock wrote:Oregon has had a competitive basketball program for many years...The last two, not so much...Apparently you either werent around or werent paying attention during the days of the Kamakazee Kids, or more recently with the teams sporting the talents of Alex Scales, Freddie Jones, the two Lukes, etc. No we were not and probably never will be a Duke or UCLA quality powerhouse, but to make a statement of "what we are as a basketball school" is nothing short of rediculous. Man, I surely wouldnt want you havin my back in the trenches...Put your white flag down and dont be negative. We compete, and some years at a very high level. And to think that with our new facilities, our financial successes and backing, that we may not attract the attention of a high level coach is .....well, u fill in the blank....You shoot for the moon and the stars....and maybe, just maybe someday, you will achieve your goals.dereknad wrote:Seems like a decent hire to me. A reputation as a solid X's and O's guy, which Ernie was not. Just wish the UO would have realized what we are as a basketball school long ago and not wasted so much time getting other coaches raises. I think we all need to swallow the bitter pill that Oregon is simply not a destination for a proven, top tier coach, regardless of our affiliations. The humility will do us all a bit of good me thinks.
To excel, one has to shoot for the moon and the stars, not play around in a wagon all your life....
All I'm saying is that I think as a basketball program we are not an elite and we never have been. I agree it is good to shoot for the moon and hope that money can buy us a good coach, but it became evident fairly early that the search wasn't working out so well. Hell it turned into a national joke. Sorry to piss you off bro but reality is what it is, and we got a big dose of it.
That being said, I think this kind of guy was realistically who we should have been targeting from the get-go. Somebody who excelled at a smaller mid-major that could really blossom given a better opportunity. Just sayin'.