Arizona State @ Oregon

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wvduck34
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Re: Arizona State @ Oregon

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I have nothing to say about the man. I don't read his columns anymore or
subscribe to the Oregonian for that matter.
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Re: Arizona State @ Oregon

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wvduck34 wrote:I have nothing to say about the man. I don't read his columns anymore or
subscribe to the Oregonian for that matter.
I think just about everyone hates him so you're not alone.
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Re: Arizona State @ Oregon

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UOducksTK1 wrote:
oregontrack wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:
duckduckgoose wrote:The basketball posts on here are starting to remind me of Oregonlive lately. People talking crap about current Ducks players and future recruits makes this part of the board hard to read. Some of the Simms should be replaced by Williams posts are getting ridiculous. Altman who has already proved to me that he can coach better than Ernie, has no idea that Williams is better than Simms even though he sees them in practice every day? C'mon people all these players made a commitment to the school that we all love. Don't they deserve at least our respect on here?
It's Sim. And I don't see there being anything wrong with fans debating over who should start and who shouldn't. Sim is shooting 25% from behind the arc, Teondre is one of our best 3point shooters. Right now we need offense, so I'd like to see Teondre start.

And honestly, right now it's more of a debate with Kingma more than anything ha. I love what I see in Kingma. If anyone watched the Oregon vs Washington high school all star game, they'd love him too.
I can, however, see why Altman has Teondre coming off the bench. First, Altman seems to view him more as a SF; his minutes tend to come when EJ sits, or when we go (even) small(er) and EJ slides to the 4. Second, while our starting unit isn't exactly stacked with prolific scorers, our bench is even worse. We need some scoring punch in reserve, and Teondre kinda/sorta represents that. And lastly... I use 'kinda/sorta' because while I think Sim receives way too much hate here by a bunch of people who don't really know what they're talking about, I think Teondre is overrated in these same circles. Is Teondre athletic? Yeah. Can he drill a trey? Only if he's in the corner, wide open. He's also EXTREMELY timid on the court, and is rarely, if ever, aggressive offensively. To steal a line from some poster on eDuck, he's about as aggressive with the ball as my wheel chair-bound grandmother. Couple those things with terrible defense, and you get a kid coming off the bench.
That's a fair assessment. I guess I'm just not used to such terrible offensive performances and I'm expecting a spark. I just don't see Sim providing that spark. Sure he might be a better defender, but he adds very little to the team offensively.

Which brings me back to.. I can't wait until guys like Brown and Kingma are here to help this squad out.
I agree. I just don't think Altman sees Teondre as being that offensive spark. I think the need for offense is why we're seeing Armstead/Loyd/Strowbridge all starting in the backcourt recently. I think Altman is hoping throwing another point out there in Loyd can lead to more easy buckets (it hasn't), and Jay-R, while shooting VERY poorly thus far, has, theoretically (or so we've been told) a Tajuan Porter-esqu ability to light it up from deep. Obviously, that hasn't happened, either.

Basically, I agree with you, we need the new guys to get in here, and fast. Altman's options are crazy limited. When our coach is forced to look at Jay-R freaking Strowbridge for an offensive spark, things are messed up.
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