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TualatinDuck wrote:If Im being lead astray, I can accept that.

But my source is not from a message board or from people that frequent them.

I'm not doubting anyone. I don't claim to have any personal pipeline, so I appreciate any info I can get. Right or wrong, thank you, TualatinDuck, for sharing what you were told.

One question that I have regarding the penalties is why there isn't also a limit on recruiting by the coaching staff. Wasn't excessive contact and too many coaches recruiting part of the violations?

Please refresh my memory if I'm off base. It wouldn't be the first time.

TualatinDuck wrote:If Im being lead astray, I can accept that.

But my source is not from a message board or from people that frequent them.

That may be, but your sources exact info has been on the message boards since at least Tuesday

uodux1212 wrote:Does the NCAA have a concrete policy of making punishments public? Oregon is so tight lipped about everything I can totally see a scenario where punishment has been handed down and UO hasn't said a word about it publicaly.

Uodux- the NCAA absolutely has policy about penalties. Once everything is ageed upon by theCOI then the university is given 24 hours notice. This basically means we (the NCAA) are going to now make your punishment public. The university has a general idea of what is coming BUT nothing is official till they give the 24 hour notice and then make the announcement. That is what lead to my question, if the UO l owe their punishment why have we not OFFICIALLY heard it from the NCAA? Not doubting Tuatin in anyway. Just stating what the rules are.

mm55 wrote:

uodux1212 wrote:Does the NCAA have a concrete policy of making punishments public? Oregon is so tight lipped about everything I can totally see a scenario where punishment has been handed down and UO hasn't said a word about it publicaly.

Uodux- the NCAA absolutely has policy about penalties. Once everything is ageed upon by theCOI then the university is given 24 hours notice. This basically means we (the NCAA) are going to now make your punishment public. The university has a general idea of what is coming BUT nothing is official till they give the 24 hour notice and then make the announcement. That is what lead to my question, if the UO l owe their punishment why have we not OFFICIALLY heard it from the NCAA? Not doubting Tuatin in anyway. Just stating what the rules are.

Thanks for the heads up... One thing's for certain, this whole situation is an unmitigated disaster... Ugh.

I appreciate any information that a person has from a legitimate source if they choose to share it with us. My question like so many on here is why has the university not shared the information if it is indeed true. I have come up with a couple of possibilities and this is only speculation on my art if Tualatin's source is accurate. The first possibility is the university is asking the NCAA to accept the self imposed scholarship reduction they have placed on themselves the last couple years and are waiting to hear back on that. The second possibility is that the university is talking with their lawyers to try to determine if they want to appeal the 5 years probation which is a long time. This is just speculation on my part. I have no sources but might be an explanation of why the university has not made it public if Tualatin's source is correct.

GoDucksIn09 wrote:I appreciate any information that a person has from a legitimate source if they choose to share it with us. My question like so many on here is why has the university not shared the information if it is indeed true. I have come up with a couple of possibilities and this is only speculation on my art if Tualatin's source is accurate. The first possibility is the university is asking the NCAA to accept the self imposed scholarship reduction they have placed on themselves the last couple years and are waiting to hear back on that. The second possibility is that the university is talking with their lawyers to try to determine if they want to appeal the 5 years probation which is a long time. This is just speculation on my part. I have no sources but might be an explanation of why the university has not made it public if Tualatin's source is correct.

Oregon CANNOT file an appeal UNTIL after the sanctions are made public. Step 1 in the process (after the COI appearance) is for the NCAA to notify the university formally that in 24 hours they will announce sanctions. The sanctions are then announced. AFTER that Oregon in consultation with their lawyer can decide to appeal. Oregon is not hiding anything. It is not their call. Once the NCAA gives 24 hour notice THEY, NOT OREGON announce the sanctions. After that announcement Oregon can do one of two things- accept the punishment and the case will then be closed. If they chose to appeal that will likely be announced via a statement from Mullens. Oregon is not being "tight lipped" or hiding anything. There is nothing they can do till after the official announcement from the NCAA. They are in a holding pattern at this time. That's the bottom line.

Look at the Mississippi State case- last Thursday the NCAA gave them 24 hours notice that they were going to announce sanctions. ON Friday they did. That's the process.

As stated above UO may have a very good idea of what the penalties will be but UNTIL they get formal notice there is nothing they can do or comment on. You can be sure UO and their lawyer have discussed this a million ways to Sunday.

just to clarify something that I said above and was not as clear as I should have been. The COI has up to 90 days after a hearing to issues sanctions. Technically it could be mid-July before they announce UO's sanctions. This past week there was some rumblings because Miss State went before the COI the same day as UO and got their verdict last week. The general concensus was UO was coming next. For whatever reason nothing happened.

UO will make public as will the NCAA when the 24 hour notice is given. This will give UO a chance to manage the flow of info. The conventional wisdom now is next week but again who knows and nothing is certain.

mm55 wrote:just to clarify something that I said above and was not as clear as I should have been. The COI has up to 90 days after a hearing to issues sanctions. Technically it could be mid-July before they announce UO's sanctions. This past week there was some rumblings because Miss State went before the COI the same day as UO and got their verdict last week. The general concensus was UO was coming next. For whatever reason nothing happened.

UO will make public as will the NCAA when the 24 hour notice is given. This will give UO a chance to manage the flow of info. The conventional wisdom now is next week but again who knows and nothing is certain.

I believe the 24 hour period is the minimum time between the private and public notice, but that period can be greater than 24 hours at the NCAA's discretion.

This was my understanding, but I couldn't find a definitive answer on the NCAA website, so I am not sure.

I do agree that the school must wait until the NCAA makes their public announcement before they can say anything for the record.

GrandpaDuck wrote:

mm55 wrote:just to clarify something that I said above and was not as clear as I should have been. The COI has up to 90 days after a hearing to issues sanctions. Technically it could be mid-July before they announce UO's sanctions. This past week there was some rumblings because Miss State went before the COI the same day as UO and got their verdict last week. The general concensus was UO was coming next. For whatever reason nothing happened.

UO will make public as will the NCAA when the 24 hour notice is given. This will give UO a chance to manage the flow of info. The conventional wisdom now is next week but again who knows and nothing is certain.

I believe the 24 hour period is the minimum time between the private and public notice, but that period can be greater than 24 hours at the NCAA's discretion.

This was my understanding, but I couldn't find a definitive answer on the NCAA website, so I am not sure.

I do agree that the school must wait until the NCAA makes their public announcement before they can say anything for the record.

You are correct . the first move is up to the NCAA. UO cannot announce anything. The 24 hour notice is given then the NCAA issues a statement indicating the sacntions. COI members can make comments on the sanctions and those TYPICALLY range from things like "XYZ institution was cooperative and assisted in bringing this matter to closure". They don't say much else and if you were to ask the NCAA, their comment would be "we do not comment on any active or closed investigations". Actually that is a good thing in some ways because then it is put to rest.