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DuckMastaFunk wrote:The only thing I care about is getting a national championship. Do you guys the coach Pete can bring that? He’s a very good coach, but I don’t think he can win it all. With Pete we’ll be competing for a pac-12 title 50% - 75% of the time but that’s where we top out.

Having a good program is nice but I want a championship. I would take 4 losing seasons over the next 5 years if the other year we won it all.
Imagine bringing in an SEC coach with a good rep, seriously speaking, I hope our next HC can be good and lead us to the CFP
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SuperDuck wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
Everythingsducky wrote:
DuckzRule wrote:I dunno but having either Chris Petersen or Chip Kelly as options is pretty weird imo.

I hope our next HC is someone that has a good reputation and can lead us to some CFP's
Why coach Pete? Oregon guy, great rep, and has everything you would want. Innovative, games are fun to watch, smart x/o dude. He would be number one for sure.
He also retired because he got burned out due to the recruiting and coaching schedule.
He was also innovative. Some of his trick plays were classic.

Who knows? Maybe he's had enough time away to rest and reconsider? It's understandable that he wouldn't want a pressure cooker job like USC, but even though expectations are rising at Oregon, it's nowhere near L.A. or Seattle.

Oh, and he'd have a loaded roster, as well as a salvageable class of incoming recruits.
Lol. You don't think expectations in Eugene are high? I think everyone expects a national championship soon. We're overdue.
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bellsduck wrote:
SuperDuck wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
Everythingsducky wrote:
DuckzRule wrote:I dunno but having either Chris Petersen or Chip Kelly as options is pretty weird imo.

I hope our next HC is someone that has a good reputation and can lead us to some CFP's
Why coach Pete? Oregon guy, great rep, and has everything you would want. Innovative, games are fun to watch, smart x/o dude. He would be number one for sure.
He also retired because he got burned out due to the recruiting and coaching schedule.
He was also innovative. Some of his trick plays were classic.

Who knows? Maybe he's had enough time away to rest and reconsider? It's understandable that he wouldn't want a pressure cooker job like USC, but even though expectations are rising at Oregon, it's nowhere near L.A. or Seattle.

Oh, and he'd have a loaded roster, as well as a salvageable class of incoming recruits.
Lol. You don't think expectations in Eugene are high? I think everyone expects a national championship soon. We're overdue.
Expectations aren’t high, half the fan base just wants to can a guy that took the program to 3 straight PAC-12 championships and won 10 games with a banged up roster and RB playing QB.
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droop10 wrote:
bellsduck wrote:
SuperDuck wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
Everythingsducky wrote:
DuckzRule wrote:I dunno but having either Chris Petersen or Chip Kelly as options is pretty weird imo.

I hope our next HC is someone that has a good reputation and can lead us to some CFP's
Why coach Pete? Oregon guy, great rep, and has everything you would want. Innovative, games are fun to watch, smart x/o dude. He would be number one for sure.
He also retired because he got burned out due to the recruiting and coaching schedule.
He was also innovative. Some of his trick plays were classic.

Who knows? Maybe he's had enough time away to rest and reconsider? It's understandable that he wouldn't want a pressure cooker job like USC, but even though expectations are rising at Oregon, it's nowhere near L.A. or Seattle.

Oh, and he'd have a loaded roster, as well as a salvageable class of incoming recruits.
Lol. You don't think expectations in Eugene are high? I think everyone expects a national championship soon. We're overdue.
Expectations aren’t high, half the fan base just wants to can a guy that took the program to 3 straight PAC-12 championships and won 10 games with a banged up roster and RB playing QB.
Droop..........honest question. Do you...........watch these games? Because if you did, MC isnt Pete Carrol just rolling through teams. If you are paying attention, watch the Ducks play offense under MC is like going to the dentist. Yes, your teeth are repaired, clean and ready to go, but its F'n painful dude.
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QuackininBama wrote:
Droop..........honest question. Do you...........watch these games? Because if you did, MC isnt Pete Carrol just rolling through teams. If you are paying attention, watch the Ducks play offense under MC is like going to the dentist. Yes, your teeth are repaired, clean and ready to go, but its F'n painful dude.
I’ve watched every single game. I don’t care if they roll through teams, I just care if they win. The exciting offenses were great, and I’d love to have it, but I can also see how silly it is to want rid of a coach that has rebuilt a program that was in bad shape when he took over, just because they don’t look sexy enough of offense.

Yes, watching Brown was painful, but he was their best chance to win at the time, so they did what they had to do to win games, regardless of style points. My biggest beef is that they drove Shough out of town, because I think he would have been a better option, but the fan base had already turned on Shough too, because he had a couple of subpar games. That being said, Mario has the program headed in the right direction, and it’s odd to me that people are calling for his head when they surpassed most people’s preseason expectations, despite an abnormal high number of injuries to key players.
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I’ve watched every single game. I don’t care if they roll through teams, I just care if they win.
Obviously, dominating an opponent is meaningless if you choke the game away and somehow manage to lose it... but, overall, I care nearly as much about being dominant as I do about winning. That doesn't mean we have to light up the scoreboard every Saturday, but I want to see the Ducks win in dominating fashion.

That's what bothers me about the Cristobal era. We win, but we rarely dominate. We often deserve to lose. We eek out wins despite having a sizable talent advantage.

Winning is ultimately what matters, but we'll never win the big one unless we learn how to regularly win in dominating fashion.
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pezsez1 wrote:
I’ve watched every single game. I don’t care if they roll through teams, I just care if they win.
Obviously, dominating an opponent is meaningless if you choke the game away and somehow manage to lose it... but, overall, I care nearly as much about being dominant as I do about winning. That doesn't mean we have to light up the scoreboard every Saturday, but I want to see the Ducks win in dominating fashion.

That's what bothers me about the Cristobal era. We win, but we rarely dominate. We often deserve to lose. We eek out wins despite having a sizable talent advantage.

Winning is ultimately what matters, but we'll never win the big one unless we learn how to regularly win in dominating fashion.
The thing is that it’s still a very young team and you can see the progression. During the weird Covid year, they were the youngest team in the nation and we saw that inexperience come out a lot. They struggled quite a bit as a result. To expect them to go from that to dominating the following year is unrealistic. However, we did see them progress from losing close winnable games to finishing most of those games off this season (Stanford withstanding, but they did hold them off until the refs intervened). It’s still a very young team, made younger by the rash of injuries. It’s also a team hamstrung at QB, which is obviously the most important position. If they suddenly dropped to 7-5 next year and looked awful, I’d understand, but the way I see it, the trajectory of the program is still headed in the right direction. In the event he leaves tomorrow, it’ll be like hitting the reset button and starting all over, because this recruiting class will fall apart.
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I'm not sure the Ducks can really salvage the 2022 class like they did in 2017 when Taggart left since there's no real heir apparent and/or ace recruiter to fill the Mario had when he took over the program. This feels like it's going to be 2016 all over again except with the added pressure of early signing day and a bowl game.
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droop10 wrote:
bellsduck wrote:
SuperDuck wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
Everythingsducky wrote:
DuckzRule wrote:I dunno but having either Chris Petersen or Chip Kelly as options is pretty weird imo.

I hope our next HC is someone that has a good reputation and can lead us to some CFP's
Why coach Pete? Oregon guy, great rep, and has everything you would want. Innovative, games are fun to watch, smart x/o dude. He would be number one for sure.
He also retired because he got burned out due to the recruiting and coaching schedule.
He was also innovative. Some of his trick plays were classic.

Who knows? Maybe he's had enough time away to rest and reconsider? It's understandable that he wouldn't want a pressure cooker job like USC, but even though expectations are rising at Oregon, it's nowhere near L.A. or Seattle.

Oh, and he'd have a loaded roster, as well as a salvageable class of incoming recruits.
Lol. You don't think expectations in Eugene are high? I think everyone expects a national championship soon. We're overdue.
Expectations aren’t high, half the fan base just wants to can a guy that took the program to 3 straight PAC-12 championships and won 10 games with a banged up roster and RB playing QB.
He took the program to two Pac-12 Championships. We sucked ass last year and only got in on a fluke because the Huskies couldn't play in it, so sorry, he doesn't get credit for that one. Though he did take us to one this year (which I am still baffled by from watching the games) and we got absolutely fucking embarrassed. How people still keep defending this dude is hilarious.
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droop10 wrote:
pezsez1 wrote:
I’ve watched every single game. I don’t care if they roll through teams, I just care if they win.
Obviously, dominating an opponent is meaningless if you choke the game away and somehow manage to lose it... but, overall, I care nearly as much about being dominant as I do about winning. That doesn't mean we have to light up the scoreboard every Saturday, but I want to see the Ducks win in dominating fashion.

That's what bothers me about the Cristobal era. We win, but we rarely dominate. We often deserve to lose. We eek out wins despite having a sizable talent advantage.

Winning is ultimately what matters, but we'll never win the big one unless we learn how to regularly win in dominating fashion.
The thing is that it’s still a very young team and you can see the progression. During the weird Covid year, they were the youngest team in the nation and we saw that inexperience come out a lot. They struggled quite a bit as a result. To expect them to go from that to dominating the following year is unrealistic. However, we did see them progress from losing close winnable games to finishing most of those games off this season (Stanford withstanding, but they did hold them off until the refs intervened). It’s still a very young team, made younger by the rash of injuries. It’s also a team hamstrung at QB, which is obviously the most important position. If they suddenly dropped to 7-5 next year and looked awful, I’d understand, but the way I see it, the trajectory of the program is still headed in the right direction. In the event he leaves tomorrow, it’ll be like hitting the reset button and starting all over, because this recruiting class will fall apart.
It’s also a team that screamed all year how physical they are, only to get completely worked physically twice in three weeks by the same team. Those two games were not outliers. They got manhandled in a few other games, and were very fortunate to come out on top. Don’t fool yourself. The trajectory of the program will be having to GET more physical, and either find a competent QB through the portal, or completely re-evaluate how they are grading and offering HS QB’s.
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Ok, maybe I should pivot here. I understand Mario isn’t perfect, certainly not a top 5 coach in the country, but who do you guys expect to get that is better? I feel like everyone is eager to get rid of him with no better solution. Guys I’ve seen listed:
Chip - Mario is 3-0 against him. Don’t but the big rebuild at UCLA. They weren’t devoid of talent, they’re in a recruiting hotbed, and he’s had 4 years. His best days are behind him.

Petersen - again Mario 2-0 against him. He had only 1 team during his time at Washington that fared better than this one did this season. Supposedly was burnt out on the recruiting aspect of things.

Aranda - did anyone watch his interview after their game yesterday? The guy is a robot with zero charisma. He isn’t going to be a recruiting ace. His last 2 classes haven’t even had 1 4 star. I understand he’s at Baylor, but he’s in Texas and can’t even pull 1 4 star?

Marion - 0 HC experience, hasn’t even been a coordinator at FBS level. Talk about a risky hire.

Wilcox - how can anyone take this seriously. You think Mario’s offense is hard to watch? Wilcox has done nothing to improve that program.

Brady - guy has 1 good season as a co-OC at a school loaded with incredible talent on offense. 0 HC experience. Just got fired from his current gig.
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If he stays, the offensive lineman recruiting really needs to examined also. Guys with high rankings that can barely crack the 2 deep is common. Earlier in this thread, people were concerned that we'd be getting a late start in the hiring process and some of the top candidates are off the board. Who has been hired that we might have interviewed? I'm basing my question of this list. Kalen DeBoer is the only one that I'm sure we would've have interviewed.

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If Mario is gone I want Primetime! Screw good, I want exciting!
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I’m not worried about available coaches on a list. If the Ducks want a current sitting coach, they will reach out. These lists are of available coaches. Everyone is available with the right numbers. Look no further than what Diaz is sitting through. Go get your guy.
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OregonFan4Life wrote:If Mario is gone I want Primetime! Screw good, I want exciting!
Deion Sanders is the only name that has me excited. He has turned around Jackson State in 1.5 seasons and would be a monster on the recruiting trail. IMHO, he is the only person we could hire that Lincoln Riley would be scared to recruit against.
I doubt it would happen though as he holds a grudge against Nike for not giving him his own line, and he currently has an Under Armour deal. I’m curious if a heartfelt apology from Uncle Phil would be enough to get him to move past it.
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