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Analysis: 2012 class takes shape by Duck Territory (re-posted at BR)
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/bacwk

If you want to cut out the middle man...http://oregon.247sports.com/Article/Ana ... hape-32131

dude that's not cool.

i mean, you can it's not immoral to use bleacher report... yet.

but it is to post up someone else's work as your own

maxduck wrote:If you want to cut out the middle man...http://oregon.247sports.com/Article/Ana ... hape-32131

Thanks Max that's what I should have done...

Bleacher Report isn't trying to claim that it is their work, it came from the Oregon football newsletter. We do it so the site we are sending traffic to, knows it came from us. I can definitely stop adding that site if there is any concern. I am trying to send some traffic to the site since I appreciate the work they do and the news that comes up on this board.

Am I the only one who has been a bit underwhelmed with our recruiting class thus far? I know that our coaches know how to spot talent better than anyone and I know that many of these kids' rankings may change and they may receive more scholarship offers. I also realize that rankings aren't everything and that some of our best players in the past flew completely under the radar in high school. Still, coming off a year where we went to the National Championship and had our best recruiting class ever, I don't understand the rush to use up so many scholarships on kids whose only other offers have come from schools like Purdue and San Diego State. It's early on in the recruiting process, I say we go for the big fish.

js2248 wrote:Am I the only one who has been a bit underwhelmed with our recruiting class thus far? I know that our coaches know how to spot talent better than anyone and I know that many of these kids' rankings may change and they may receive more scholarship offers. I also realize that rankings aren't everything and that some of our best players in the past flew completely under the radar in high school. Still, coming off a year where we went to the National Championship and had our best recruiting class ever, I don't understand the rush to use up so many scholarships on kids whose only other offers have come from schools like Purdue and San Diego State. It's early on in the recruiting process, I say we go for the big fish.

To your point about going for "big fish" - we're doing plenty of that when appropriate (see: Banner, Garnett, Murphy, Simmons, Agholar, Foster, Dozier, Shell, the Marshalls, Woods, Lewis, Neal, Powe, Hamilton, Buckner, Kaumatule, McCarthy, Ekakitie, Morrison, Alexander, Adams, Beaver, Thompson, not to mention Evan Baylis, and Balducci). The problem with going for ALL of the "big fish" is 1) we're still a little brother nationally. While we're the cool kids right now, we don't have the history that teams like Alabama and Florida State do, so even with our recent success, we can only do SO WELL right now.

The other issue is that a lot of the "big fish" are from the South. The South presents a myriad of problems for us - distance, differences in culture, weather, environment, academic standards, a lot of competition down there, etc.

I'd say I'm very pleased with the guys we're going after.

To your point about why we're filling up so fast - take a look at our roster for this upcoming season. Mostly Sophomores and Juniors, which means that we'll have most of the team back next year. Not only can we take kids that are more "projects" this year, as it'll be a few years before we need them, but the sooner we fill up this year, the sooner we can start recruiting more big fish next year... in Chip & co. I trust.

glazeduck wrote:

js2248 wrote:Am I the only one who has been a bit underwhelmed with our recruiting class thus far? I know that our coaches know how to spot talent better than anyone and I know that many of these kids' rankings may change and they may receive more scholarship offers. I also realize that rankings aren't everything and that some of our best players in the past flew completely under the radar in high school. Still, coming off a year where we went to the National Championship and had our best recruiting class ever, I don't understand the rush to use up so many scholarships on kids whose only other offers have come from schools like Purdue and San Diego State. It's early on in the recruiting process, I say we go for the big fish.

To your point about going for "big fish" - we're doing plenty of that when appropriate (see: Banner, Garnett, Murphy, Simmons, Agholar, Foster, Dozier, Shell, the Marshalls, Woods, Lewis, Neal, Powe, Hamilton, Buckner, Kaumatule, McCarthy, Ekakitie, Morrison, Alexander, Adams, Beaver, Thompson, not to mention Evan Baylis, and Balducci). The problem with going for ALL of the "big fish" is 1) we're still a little brother nationally. While we're the cool kids right now, we don't have the history that teams like Alabama and Florida State do, so even with our recent success, we can only do SO WELL right now.

The other issue is that a lot of the "big fish" are from the South. The South presents a myriad of problems for us - distance, differences in culture, weather, environment, academic standards, a lot of competition down there, etc.

I'd say I'm very pleased with the guys we're going after.

To your point about why we're filling up so fast - take a look at our roster for this upcoming season. Mostly Sophomores and Juniors, which means that we'll have most of the team back next year. Not only can we take kids that are more "projects" this year, as it'll be a few years before we need them, but the sooner we fill up this year, the sooner we can start recruiting more big fish next year... in Chip & co. I trust.

Great points. I'd also like to point out that Kelly only throws out select offers, rather than spraying and praying.

So if the Ducks offer 3 guys at one position right now, it probably means we have 3 spots. Those offers likely have conditions attached to them, certainly in terms of time.

The Oregon coaches have boards. The number one guy on a board may be the *** player instead of the ***** player, for whatever reason, even if they think the ***** guy is more talented. Or maybe they offer both, and see who commits first?

The point is, there are many reasons why you wouldn't want to just offer the top guys right now, and wait on the sleepers that you really like. So far the Ducks have a good mix of highly rated guys and sleepers.

Am I the only one who has been a bit underwhelmed with our recruiting class thus far?

you are aware that LOI day isn't for about 6 more months right? of course you didn't. thanks for playing

hines wrote:

Am I the only one who has been a bit underwhelmed with our recruiting class thus far?

you are aware that LOI day isn't for about 6 more months right? of course you didn't. thanks for playing

And I thought LOI day was almost 6 months ago - silly me

I have to agree, this class feels underwhelming if you are going based upon stars/offers. I like Jake R, Balducci, Baylis, even the diamond in the rough from Montana but I just thought we'd get a few more higher profile commits by now after being in the limelight all of last season.

DmoneyDuck wrote:I have to agree, this class feels underwhelming if you are going based upon stars/offers. I like Jake R, Balducci, Baylis, even the diamond in the rough from Montana but I just thought we'd get a few more higher profile commits by now after being in the limelight all of last season.

Really?

also the fact that we have all of the high 3* players committed means that the coaches dont have to spend their time recruiting those needs anymore. They can use all of their energy going after their top targets now. this isn't really a situation that the Oregon coaches have been in at this point in the recruiting cycle. But im sure they are pleased with the situation and will use all of the extra time pursuing their top tier targets.

look at texas, they wrap up their class way before NSD. Meaning those coaches have the time to recruit future classes way harder than most schools; because most schools don't get that many early commitments. Getting those early commitments really helps future recruiting IMO. Getting a commitment from a 3* player early in the recruiting cycle inst underwhelming for me, but when those 3* players commit late in the recruiting cycle it is very underwhelming. Makes me crazy thinking we spent all that time trying to get that caliber of a player to commit when we could have been going after a top tier guy at that position/need all the way up to NSD

The Oregon screening process takes a lot more time than other schools. Less offers lead to less commits for the most part. We have only really offered a lot of the top talent that usually waits a while before making a decision.

I really have no problem with Oregon taking its time in filling out it's recruiting class. Oregon's coaches have proven that they know how to get players who fit their system and the players already here.