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6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:48 pm
by UOducksTK1
Really? USC wouldn't have made it if they didn't win the tournament, and Arizona was a shocker...
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:52 pm
by duckgrad99
Arizona getting in was ridiculous, especially after USC got in. Arizona didn't play well at the end, didn't win in the first round of the conference tourny, didn't beat impressive teams on the road, etc. I know there are snubs every year, but the fact that St. Mary's didn't get in is ridiculous. Most of the bubble teams had a better case than Arizona.
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:01 pm
by dthomas=ddixon
It's almost like people are afraid of ending their consecutive tourney appearance streak. They get in because, "Well it's Arizona, we havta put them in".
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:17 pm
by uofo627
I agree with you guys on this, but who would you chosen to go in their place?
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:17 pm
by UOducksTK1
uofo627 wrote:I agree with you guys on this, but who would you chosen to go in their place?
St. Mary's.
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:21 pm
by duckgrad99
uofo627 wrote:I agree with you guys on this, but who would you chosen to go in their place?
St Mary's. They finished 26-6. Like the analysts said, who knew that teams they played like Oregon and Southern Illinios would have down years before the schedule came out? They also beat Providence, Kent State and San Diego State. I'm extra sensitive to snubs because Oregon has been snubbed in football and even basketball in terms of tournament seeding.
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:38 pm
by alabamaduck
dthomas=ddixon wrote:It's almost like people are afraid of ending their consecutive tourney appearance streak. They get in because, "Well it's Arizona, we havta put them in".
I disagree, if that was the case UK would be in the tournament too. I think the committee just realized that this season was a very strange one for the 'Zona with the Olsen situation and gave them the benefit of the doubt, sort of like when Michigan State got a 1 seed with like 7-8 losses because Mateen Cleaves had missed a large part of the season
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:01 pm
by duckgrad99
Oregon State and Stanford made the CBI tournament. Washington State made the NIT. That means that every pac-10 team except for Oregon will be playing in a postseason game.
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:08 am
by pudgejeff
Arizona got in because it beat 4 conference champions...Kansas, Washington, Gonzaga, and the Big Sky or something like that champ.
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:50 am
by northbeachsf
pudgejeff wrote:Arizona got in because it beat 4 conference champions...Kansas, Washington, Gonzaga, and the Big Sky or something like that champ.
Agree! Arizona got in because they were without a doubt the best team in that 7-team bubble group and the only team in that group that would have a chance in that first round game.
St. Marys? Please. That is hilarious. They lost to Gonzaga all three times and just got blasted by 30 points in the tourney game by the same team that Arizona beat.
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:59 am
by duckgrad99
I disagree about Arizona. You also have to look at how a team finished the year. You also have to look at key victories away from home. You also have to consider the fact that Arizona went 9-9 in a down conference. Whether they will win in the tournament is irrelevant. Even if you don't think St Mary's should have been in, I think Arizona should have been out. Just my opinion.
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:01 am
by northbeachsf
duckgrad99 wrote:I disagree about Arizona. You also have to look at how a team finished the year. You also have to look at key victories away from home. You also have to consider the fact that Arizona went 9-9 in a down conference. Whether they will win in the tournament is irrelevant. Even if you don't think St Mary's should have been in, I think Arizona should have been out. Just my opinion.
I will agree that those last 7 or 8 teams were all pretty flawed and you could make a case that none of them should have made it. This is a year where I don't think any of those teams that were left out can say that "they were screwed".
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:39 am
by pudgejeff
The Pac-10 was not a down conference this year...I don't understand how people continue to say that.
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:07 pm
by greenyellow
pudgejeff wrote:The Pac-10 was not a down conference this year...I don't understand how people continue to say that.
I never got it when people said the Pac-10 was down. Yes, a lot of good players left, but they left teams that still had lots of talent returning. While there was no elite team like last year (UCLA), there were still 6 solid teams that can compete in the tournament. I don't think that anybody except for Washington and UCLA can get to the 2nd weekend, but I think that every team has a realistic chance to get out of the first round.
Re: 6 pac10 teams in the tournament?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:22 pm
by dthomas=ddixon
pudgejeff wrote:The Pac-10 was not a down conference this year...I don't understand how people continue to say that.
I just think it's down compared to the last few years. There's no "elite" team that will be in title contention, there was 3-4 really good teams. There wasn't a bevy of top draft picks like last year either. The Pac-10 was still very good, just not quit what it was the past couple years.