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for those recruiting experts out there, what are the chances of Oregon landing these two guys? They'd be huge pickups! The type of recruits Oregon needs to become elite. I could see these guys playing as True Freshman, and a few years from now, both of them contributing to Oregon's first ever national championship season led by Heisman winner DeAnthony Thomas! OK maybe I should slow down, but what's the latest on these two players and where does Oregon rank on their list of favorites?

From what i've been hearing, McCarthy is all but a USC lock, though we have a small shot, not really realistic to think he's coming here. We do have a very realistic shot for Armstead, which could potentially end up netting us his brother as well, but i'm not counting on that one. Armstead is either Oregon, Cal or USC, and we have as good of a shot as anyone.

My guess is that McCarthy goes to USC, and that Armstead either goes to Cal or Oregon(it is a toss-up). The reason why I am saying USC is done for Armstead is that even if his brother were to be cleared, the damage would already be done and it would be too little too late. Also, his brother is definitely a part of the deal from what I have heard.

Ugh, of course the elite big talent on the west coast would go to USC, where else?

OregonFan4Life wrote:Ugh, of course the elite big talent on the west coast would go to USC, where else?

We could be wrong, it is just the feeling of most people. McCarthy's father wants to be able to watch all of his son's games, and Oregon isn't in the Southern California vicinity. McCarthy is still considering Oregon very seriously, even though some have said he is a silent commit to SC...I'm not buying that he is a silent, but still believe he ends up there.

TheMaehlMan wrote:

OregonFan4Life wrote:Ugh, of course the elite big talent on the west coast would go to USC, where else?

We could be wrong, it is just the feeling of most people. McCarthy's father wants to be able to watch all of his son's games, and Oregon isn't in the Southern California vicinity. McCarthy is still considering Oregon very seriously, even though some have said he is a silent commit to SC...I'm not buying that he is a silent, but still believe he ends up there.

Nothing bugs me more than fathers playing a huge role in deciding where kids go. It's one thing if McCarthy wants to play near his dad, it's another if McCarthy's father wants him to play near him. I just wish fathers would let their kids make their own decisions. I've seen players go to USC simply because their dad wanted them to, like George Farmar.

USC has pissed off the Armstead family with the way they treated his older brother. IMO it's UO or Cal.

OregonFan4Life wrote:Nothing bugs me more than fathers playing a huge role in deciding where kids go. It's one thing if McCarthy wants to play near his dad, it's another if McCarthy's father wants him to play near him. I just wish fathers would let their kids make their own decisions. I've seen players go to USC simply because their dad wanted them to, like George Farmar.

I'll give his Father this though: He would have preferred that Ellis played at UCLA(he has ties there, can't remember why), and since Ellis likes SC more he hasn't made him go to UCLA at least.

By Kevin Carden
Scout.com
Date: Nov 22, 2011

Find out which Pac-12 power leads for five-star defensive lineman Ellis McCarthy from Monrovia High School

Scout said he's named a leader, do we know if it's USC?

yeah its SC....

For McCarthy its between Oregon and USC. remember that Oregon was his favorite on the visit hands down. And was mentioned they were in the lead. Yes I believe family makes a difference but we are not talking South Carolina to Oregon. like my man Roderick byers who committed to Oregon then changed his mind, I still keep in good contact with him and he still loves our Ducks! for him issue was family /distance that is what he told me. Oregon is close enough to California. Remember the article where McCarthy then says that Oregon moves up in his list and bumped up. I believe before it has always been Usc, Cal, Oregon.. well Its USC and Oregon very close. For Dad yes McCarthy/USC hands down. McCarthy has something to think about between Oregon and USC, remember he didn't expect for Oregon to be a special place. but loves our facilities and everything about Oregon. If I could put a percentage on it I would say USC 60% Oregon 40%. We still have a chance with McCarthy it depends also how much contact Oregon is having with him. if they don't sweat McCarthy it just will be easier for him to decide USC.

Armstead Duck fans are showing him a lot of love on twitter I think we have a great shot with him rather than McCarthy as others have said. SHould be interesting.

OregonFan4Life wrote:

TheMaehlMan wrote:

OregonFan4Life wrote:Ugh, of course the elite big talent on the west coast would go to USC, where else?

We could be wrong, it is just the feeling of most people. McCarthy's father wants to be able to watch all of his son's games, and Oregon isn't in the Southern California vicinity. McCarthy is still considering Oregon very seriously, even though some have said he is a silent commit to SC...I'm not buying that he is a silent, but still believe he ends up there.

Nothing bugs me more than fathers playing a huge role in deciding where kids go. It's one thing if McCarthy wants to play near his dad, it's another if McCarthy's father wants him to play near him. I just wish fathers would let their kids make their own decisions. I've seen players go to USC simply because their dad wanted them to, like George Farmar.

Really? A kids father should not have a large influence on his decision? Disagree. And though you may not like their reasons, they are their reasons.

As a father I'd absolutely love it if my kids stayed close to home. In the end it's the kid's decision but any parent if asked would say they'd prefer them to stay closer.

As a father I'd absolutely love it if my kids stayed close to home. In the end it's the kid's decision but any parent if asked would say they'd prefer them to stay closer.

Not my mother! She encouraged my sisters and I to attend school as far from home as possible.

I ended up at UofO, and my older sister ended up at OSU... my younger sister ended up at Southern Oregon. I actually wanted to go to University of Colorado, but for whatever reason back in 1997, they didn't respond to my admission inquiries (even though I had a GPA of 3.9+). Had the Internet been as prevalent then as it is today, I probably never would have been a Duck. Thank goodness that things worked out the way they did!

Anyway, not all parents have tunnel vision when it comes to their kids.

OregonFan4Life wrote: Nothing bugs me more than fathers playing a huge role in deciding where kids go. It's one thing if McCarthy wants to play near his dad, it's another if McCarthy's father wants him to play near him. I just wish fathers would let their kids make their own decisions. I've seen players go to USC simply because their dad wanted them to, like George Farmar.

I hate losing recruits for various reasons, but I would never want to undermine a relationship between father and son because of football. That father just spent 18 years raising that kid; I think he deserves to have some influence over the college decision.

The bummer for me is that we get stuck with fathers like Stan Love on 'our side'.