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Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:26 am
by UofDuck
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/footb ... ian-okafor

Nice offer list. Cal strikes again. Unreal.

Rivals has him as a 3 star...

Re: Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:33 am
by karlhungis
First I've heard of him. Were we after him?

Re: Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:41 am
by uodux1212
I dont mean to sound like "conspiracy theory guy", Ive been a big defender in the past for kids choosing Cal (the pros of going to school there are many) but something doesn't smell right in Berkley... just sayin.

Re: Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:57 am
by karlhungis
uodux1212 wrote:I dont mean to sound like "conspiracy theory guy", Ive been a big defender in the past for kids choosing Cal (the pros of going to school there are many) but something doesn't smell right in Berkley... just sayin.
The only thing suspicious to me is Tosh skirting the contacting rules by recruiting kids over xbox live.

Re: Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:29 am
by duckydoug
reading the rivals reports on it, sounds like Shaq talked him into decommitting from TTU and visit Cal. shaq talks a ton with armstead on twitter as well.

Re: Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:37 am
by Duck07
Well, we don't recruit 3 technique DL, we recruit fast, athletic DL. We don't want a massive body clogging space up in the middle because we need speed that can shoot the gaps instead. We can't use those big guys anyways, we couldn't sub them in or out of play because we use some many guys in rotation. Wait, rotating that many players would allow you to use those kinds of DTs? No way! I don't believe that for a second and don't try to tell me that we once had the biggest, baddest and strongest DT possibly of all-time and we still couldn't play that kind of D? Well, clearly its just not possible to play that kind of defense in Eugene...

Yes, that is more of my sarcasm, but if you look at teams both pro and college that run successful zone blitz primary defenses (Pitt/Baltimore/NYJ/Alabama etc), getting one or two huge bodies like that is vital to your scheme. We basically have said that we are done recruiting those types of DL because of our scheme but the scheme we use is incomplete without one of those bodies. It's why our run defense HAS to have 8-9 in the box to work and is conversely so terrible at stopping the pass. Those above teams can all be successful at stopping the run at times with 5-6-7 in the box and as a result, have greater success with their schemes because they are not so darn predictable every play. It is that predictability on defense that hurts us so badly and makes our scheme that much more ineffective.

Re: Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:38 am
by nehalem
It's been mostly my pleasure to root against this perenial under achiever and will continue to root against them when they play Texas(can't believe I just said that, due to my hatred of all things Texas.) I get my supposed to join hands with the Pac12 during bowl season, I get they're a great school, with a great location. But more than any other school, the bitter taste left from losing recruits to those guys seems to linger-longer. Tagaloa really bugs me.

Re: Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:40 am
by nehalem
As I reread, I should clarify my hatred of all Texas sports teams.

Re: Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:24 pm
by ksmack
TOSH Lupoi is one sneaky SOB!!!! something fishy like when he told his own players to act hurt! LOL :lol:

Re: Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:12 pm
by buckmarkduck
Cal isn't doing anything diffrent, they continue to sign great classes and lose. I'll take the kids who want to win, and not the ones who want to play xbox with Tosh.

Re: Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:34 pm
by MacDuck
Duck07, take a closer look, Okafor is listed as an OL. Unless Cal recruited him specifically as the 3 technique DL, then you wasted a lot of time in your post.
Duck07 wrote:Well, we don't recruit 3 technique DL, we recruit fast, athletic DL. We don't want a massive body clogging space up in the middle because we need speed that can shoot the gaps instead. We can't use those big guys anyways, we couldn't sub them in or out of play because we use some many guys in rotation. Wait, rotating that many players would allow you to use those kinds of DTs? No way! I don't believe that for a second and don't try to tell me that we once had the biggest, baddest and strongest DT possibly of all-time and we still couldn't play that kind of D? Well, clearly its just not possible to play that kind of defense in Eugene...

Yes, that is more of my sarcasm, but if you look at teams both pro and college that run successful zone blitz primary defenses (Pitt/Baltimore/NYJ/Alabama etc), getting one or two huge bodies like that is vital to your scheme. We basically have said that we are done recruiting those types of DL because of our scheme but the scheme we use is incomplete without one of those bodies. It's why our run defense HAS to have 8-9 in the box to work and is conversely so terrible at stopping the pass. Those above teams can all be successful at stopping the run at times with 5-6-7 in the box and as a result, have greater success with their schemes because they are not so darn predictable every play. It is that predictability on defense that hurts us so badly and makes our scheme that much more ineffective.

Re: Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:05 am
by gofightingducks
If these kids want to enjoy the sun and lose so be it, Oregon is doing just fine with the kids that want to win and are OK with rain and going to school in a small(er) college town.

Re: Christian Okafor to Cal too

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:01 pm
by TheMaehlMan
Unless I am mistaken, I don't think Okafor was ever really on the radar for us..