Ducks Attack Message Board Forum

settle an argument a buddy and i are having, oh wise basketball fans of ducks attack.

we're sitting at knight arena watching the virginia game, and brett kingma comes in and air balls a trey. my friend says, "great. unless we recruit someone else or get a transfer, that kid will be starting for us at the 2 next year."

i ask, "you think so?" and he responds by saying kingma is the only shooting guard on the roster.

based on what we have right now -- not taking into account any new signees during the spring period, or any potential transfers -- my friend and i both agree that artis will/should start at the point from day one. we also agree that woods will start at the 5. we also agree that singler will start, and we're both very high on emory and what he'll bring as he continues to mature.

he says we'll go small next year, artis/kingma/emory/singler/woods. while i think we'll see that lineup from time to time, i think we'd be better off going big next year:

dominic artis 5'11
carlos emory 6'7
ej singler 6'6
ben carter 6'8
tony woods 6'11

my reasoning: emory's not a 2, but he's a pure wing and he has the athleticism to cause more mismatches than he'll come up against. he can shoot the ball and get to the rim. also, keep in mind options are kind of limited. i'm really high on carter, who is a prototypical altman post player. kuemper is also a candidate at the 4, who's redshirting this year but also fits the altman system well: both can extend out and hit the deep jumper. kuemper up to now has not been god's gift to rebounding, though.

i say we'd begin games with this lineup and go small as the game progresses. i like kingma a lot more off the bench, as starting artis and kingma together could prove adventurous.

what say you? again, going off what we know now. altman's proven to be good at adding pieces late in the game, and we might yet find ourselves with a instant impact transfer or two before all is said and done.

With what is left for recruits in the 2012 class, I wouldn't count on any type of high school SG to make an impact. Altman will have to lean heavily on JC transfers the next couple of classes to get some impact players and balance out the roster in terms of scholarships and positions.

I need to see more from Emory before I give a fair assessment of what he is capable of. Based on what I have seen, I don't think he is an ideal fit at the 2, and would expect Kingma to get the nod over him. Emory is a better player, but he also is more of a 3/4, and I question his lateral quickness on defense at the two. Emory's shooting isn't bad, but I don't see him creating much off of the dribble at this point either.

Things could change though, this is a relatively small sample size.

I actually really like that starting 5 with Emory at the 2. But only because we'll have a true PG in Artis. If Loyd is the starter at the 1 next year then idk. It still could be better than Kingma & Loyd though. I think BK will be a deadly weapon for us but I almost don't ever see him as a starting 2. If he ever does IMO it will be because it's our only option, not because he was our best option. Here's to us getting a legit guard in this or next years class. Thanks again Jabari.

dthomas=ddixon wrote:I actually really like that starting 5 with Emory at the 2. But only because we'll have a true PG in Artis. If Loyd is the starter at the 1 next year then idk. It still could be better than Kingma & Loyd though. I think BK will be a deadly weapon for us but I almost don't ever see him as a starting 2. If he ever does IMO it will be because it's our only option, not because he was our best option. Here's to us getting a legit guard in this or next years class. Thanks again Jabari.

Kingma, as of now, is going to be like a James Davis, coming off the bench to provide a spark with his shooting in short spurts.

Problem is... Emory is the only guy that could sub in for Singler. Unless you want to go really small in the 2nd unit.

either way... we suck again next year.

i would assume dotson gets immediate playing time on the wing next year.

singler will almost assuredly play 36 minutes or more a game next season if we have any shot of doing something worthwhile. i don't think we'll suck, and i actually quite like our starting five, but altman's going to need to come up aces with something unexpected in the offseason.

artis/loyd
emory/kingma
singler/dotson
carter/kuemper
woods/larson

mighty thin. mighty, mighty thin.

Whoever comes in next year as a wing will be getting some type of minutes since the depth there is just horrendous. Altman doesn't really have solid team next year with so many open scholarships still available. I think that Altman will really only take about 2 HS players and a JC player, with one of the HS players probably redshirting due to being a project or him trying to balance out the classes. The 4th open scholarship will probably end up going to Larson since I've always felt that's what Altman's intentions were for him.

oregontrack wrote:i would assume dotson gets immediate playing time on the wing next year.

singler will almost assuredly play 36 minutes or more a game next season if we have any shot of doing something worthwhile. i don't think we'll suck, and i actually quite like our starting five, but altman's going to need to come up aces with something unexpected in the offseason.

artis/loyd
emory/kingma
singler/dotson
carter/kuemper
woods/larson

mighty thin. mighty, mighty thin.

My prediction

Loyd/Artis
Dotson/Kingma
Singler/Emory
Kuemper/Carter
Woods/Larson

I think Dotson is going to come in as our 3rd best ball handler.... plays like a 2

not a bad call. dotson can ball. i'm hoping to make it up to the lsi in portland to see a game or two of his.

With the transfers, it makes getting Dotson that much more important as a commit. He was a fast riser in recruiting and had a solid offer sheet, I have high hopes for him.