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We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:55 pm
by OregonFan4Life
I know Duck fans will hate hearing this, and a lot will call me out, but I've never jumped on the Altman bandwagon, and I don't think I ever will. I sure hope I end up eating crow, but the more I watch this team the more I realize that the firing of Ernie Kent was a mistake. Now I know it was time to move on, but it was handled poorly. Oregon had no plan for a replacement, and Altman was a last resort. He has been lucky that the conference has been so weak these last couple of years. This year, Altman has some talent, and he can inspire, but watching this team all season, every game I've seen lazy and sloppy cuts and screens on offense, way too much perimeter ball movement, confused defense with players out of position, a lack of boxing out, and poor basketball IQ. I hate to say this, and I know people will say this is just a reaction to the UCLA game right now and how poorly Oregon is doing, but since the hire, I've never felt this was the right hire and that Altman was the coach to take this basketball team to the next level. Again, I hope I'm proven wrong, but even with the fans talking highly about Oregon, I never said Altman was a good coach. Please prove me wrong Altman! I would love to see this basketball team reach new levels and bring excitement to the city like the football team has.

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:57 pm
by uostudent
Had no idea that Ernie Kent posted on this message board :lol:

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:24 pm
by OregonFan4Life
LOL right on cue, tied ball game. That's the actual reason I posted that, I'm a jinxer. ;)

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:25 pm
by OregonFan4Life
uostudent wrote:Had no idea that Ernie Kent posted on this message board :lol:
Well you were wrong.

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:17 pm
by OregonFan4Life
I need to post this every time Oregon starts off poorly.

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:22 pm
by uostudent
Talk about an ineffective press. Bring back Ernie.

You might want to delete this thread champ.

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:24 pm
by duckgrad99
Kent's teams would have never won this game. Oregon wins the close games. Quite a difference from Kent. Altman is doing a great job with this team.

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:26 pm
by OregonFan4Life
duckgrad99 wrote:Kent's teams would have never won this game. Oregon wins the close games. Quite a difference from Kent. Altman is doing a great job with this team.
I will never deny that Altman can inspire this team very well, something Ernie definitely couldn't do. But the comeback had nothing to do with organization and coaching, it was just the players making plays and playing inspired. I guess his ability to inspire the players may make up for his lack of organization.

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:32 pm
by OregonFan4Life
duckgrad99 wrote:Kent's teams would have never won this game. Oregon wins the close games. Quite a difference from Kent. Altman is doing a great job with this team.
Did you not watch the 2006 season? Though I'm not sure how much of the credit for that season went to Ernie or to Brooks.

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:37 pm
by Brophdog88
10-0 in single digit games, thats not a poorly coached team. yes, it helps we can make FT's, but still

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:41 pm
by Boom
Coaching is not the problem... Altman has done a masterful job of maximizing his talent and getting these guys to play hard... and with the horrific level of play in the Pac12... that's all it really takes to win most nights... play harder than your opponent.

As far as criticism goes... He can't afford another lame duck recruiting class.

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:45 pm
by Brophdog88
Also, there really isnt that much talent on this team, there is however great chemistry, and a willingness to fill the roles the team needs. Sim the shooter, Joseph the playmaker, Woods the defensive prescence, and put back guy, Ashalou the work horse, Singler the glue guy. None of these guys are really NBA talented, they just fit together in the system they are asked to play. Altman lost a supposed 5 Star guard who was supposed to factor into a dark horse contender, and a backup in Brown and barron, and yet this team hasnt fallen apart. The team is succeeding because the players have bought into the coaching.

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:57 pm
by Brophdog88
Best player today has been Artis, who's headed to Oregon next year. All he's quacked up to be in this one.

from Andy Glockner SI.com CBB writer. good sign

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:10 pm
by oregontrack
you can say that oregon basketball is many things right now, but 'poorly coached' is not one of them. we have gotten the MAXIMUM amount of wins as is humanly possible the last two years with altman. i do not care how many extra games we played last year, winning 21 games with last season's sad sack of talent was a tremendous achievement. we're 15-5 this year with no point guard, a poor homecourt advantage, and players who have been together for months, not years.

even good teams play bad halves of basketball. making threads like this at halftime of ANY game is unwise. good teams make adjustments and keep fighting. ernie kent would be a game or two over .500 with this team; we're in the thick of an ncaa tournament run.

altman is a good coach. you can still have your doubts about whether or not he's the guy to lead this team to consistent contender status; i get that part. got to prove it, and all. but to watch this team and say it's poorly coached? that's embarrassing. you need to do better at life.

Re: We're watching a poorly coached team

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:13 pm
by greenyellow
oregontrack wrote:you can say that oregon basketball is many things right now, but 'poorly coached' is not one of them. we have gotten the MAXIMUM amount of wins as is humanly possible the last two years with altman. i do not care how many extra games we played last year, winning 21 games with last season's sad sack of talent was a tremendous achievement. we're 15-5 this year with no point guard, a poor homecourt advantage, and players who have been together for months, not years.

even good teams play bad halves of basketball. making threads like this at halftime of ANY game is unwise. good teams make adjustments and keep fighting. ernie kent would be a game or two over .500 with this team; we're in the thick of an ncaa tournament run.

altman is a good coach. you can still have your doubts about whether or not he's the guy to lead this team to consistent contender status; i get that part. got to prove it, and all. but to watch this team and say it's poorly coached? that's embarrassing. you need to do better at life.
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