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DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:37 am
by woundedknees
http://www.usctrojans.com/blog/2012/11/game-balls.html
Game Balls
By Jordan Moore on November 7, 2012 7:46 PM | No Comments
A USC football student manager has been relieved of all duties with the Trojan football team for intentionally deflating, below NCAA-regulated levels, some game footballs used by USC's team during the first half in last Saturday's game against Oregon.
Game officials discovered and re-inflated three of the balls before the game and two others at halftime. All balls were regulation in the second half.
When informed of this allegation by the Pac-12, USC investigated it immediately. The student manager confirmed that he had, without the knowledge of, or instruction from, any USC student-athlete, coach, staff member or administrator, deflated those game balls after they had been tested and approved by officials prior to the game.
As a result, the Pac-12 reprimanded USC and imposed a fine.
What was that song? You know, Elvis sang it.
That's it!
"I Believe". Then,again, maybe not.
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:32 am
by duck55
So, that's what took the air out of SC in the 1st quarter.
Wonder if one of those balls affected the missed pat or the missed field goal

Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:26 am
by Bud Lee
What possible advantage would this give them?
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:40 am
by ncduck
Soft footballs for a soft team.
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:52 am
by karlhungis
Sadly, this sounds like something Kiffin would do.
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:06 am
by duckfan22
Bud Lee wrote:What possible advantage would this give them?
Underinflated footballs typically travel at a slower speed than fully inflated balls and are thought to be easier to catch and throw.
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:26 am
by Duck24
duckfan22 wrote:Bud Lee wrote:What possible advantage would this give them?
Underinflated footballs typically travel at a slower speed than fully inflated balls and are thought to be easier to catch and throw.
But if they are traveling slower, wouldn't that give the D more time to make a play? I mean, the slower the ball is going, the more time it is in the air, therefore giving the defensive players more time to close on the receiver and/or swat the ball? I get the part about being easier to catch and how that would be advantageous for USC but the traveling slower thing doesn't quite make sense to me...
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:46 am
by squintsdd
Underinflated balls pose an advantage because they are softer and easier to grip, creating an advantage for both the QB when throwing and the WR when catching, speed of travel have nothing to do with it.
To the person who asked about the field goal and extra point. Teams have their own game balls. The ball that USC uses on offense is not the same ball that Oregon uses.
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:58 am
by Elduderino
Duck24 wrote:duckfan22 wrote:Bud Lee wrote:What possible advantage would this give them?
Underinflated footballs typically travel at a slower speed than fully inflated balls and are thought to be easier to catch and throw.
But if they are traveling slower, wouldn't that give the D more time to make a play? I mean, the slower the ball is going, the more time it is in the air, therefore giving the defensive players more time to close on the receiver and/or swat the ball? I get the part about being easier to catch and how that would be advantageous for USC but the traveling slower thing doesn't quite make sense to me...
Yeah you're correct, the amount of air let out is probably inconsequential to ball speed; as I doubt they completely deflated them. A slightly deflated ball does make them easier to catch, throw, and grip. It's a ball security advantage for sure.
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:21 am
by duck55
squintsdd wrote:Underinflated balls pose an advantage because they are softer and easier to grip, creating an advantage for both the QB when throwing and the WR when catching, speed of travel have nothing to do with it.
To the person who asked about the field goal and extra point. Teams have their own game balls. The ball that USC uses on offense is not the same ball that Oregon uses.
I did not know that, thanks.
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:25 am
by woundedknees
Most balls are inflated to either 12 or 14PSI, IIRC. Cutting it down 2 lbs wouls benefit the QB (Better grip) and the receiver (Better ability to catch the ball, especially in tight/contested situations).
Punting and kicking, not so much. Ball would tend not to travel as far.
If the offending party also handled the balls on exchanges with the refs, it might be possible to make situational switches.
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:22 am
by Bud Lee
Something tells me that if Lane dose not win this weekend he is gone
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:18 pm
by chapelhillduck
Lee/Barkley would still have torched us with completely inflated balls, just saying
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:19 pm
by karlhungis
Bud Lee wrote:Something tells me that if Lane dose not win this weekend he is gone
I think they keep him until the sanctions are over.
Re: DeFlate-Gate... Scapegoat IDed.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:23 pm
by Braveheart
This explains how Ifo and Kiko made those great interceptions...
