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Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:27 am
by UOducksTK1
http://oregon.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=946274
Figured I'd post this little tidbit.
It's a good year for Oregon to have a loaded RB class.
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:37 am
by karlhungis
We need a good QB as well though and this isn't the best time to be pulling from a weaker talent pool. If we don't land our guy this year, we will be up against a wall next year.
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:38 am
by GoDucksIn09
Yeah I agree this is a bad year to need a qb. I am sure the ducks and their coaching staff aware of ths. Will they roll the dice and wait til next year if do not land a good qb or will they go after one and try to develope him? I have been following recruiting for about 5 years. In that time do not remember the qb class being as week at the top end as what it appears to be this year.
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:18 am
by RuhlandAsherBestEver
The only positions that are a must have are D-line and RB. The QB
position is fine and can wait one or two more years. IMO keep getting
the big uglies and life will be good.
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:23 am
by jhopduck
We have got to get two, maybe 3 QB's within the next two years. Either one from this year and two next or whatever. But once Roper, Masoli, Costa ALL graduate after next year we have DT. And that's great but if he goes down and gets hurt we have....................
anyone? is this thing even on? hello? Bueller..... Bueller....
(hawkins destiny is obviously at WR, not QB)
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:16 am
by Oracle
RuhlandAsherBestEver wrote:The only positions that are a must have are D-line and RB. The QB
position is fine and can wait one or two more years. IMO keep getting
the big uglies and life will be good.
I don't know where you get that idea. If we wait even one year we will have only true frosh QB(s) behind DT in 2011. If we wait two years we will be playing the 2011 season with only one QB. Our track record would indicate needingat least 3.
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:17 am
by woundedknees
It is sort of scary to see that at this time the highest ranked 2010 dual threat QB prospect on Rivals is a 4 star... It has been quite a while since that happened.
Rivals actually ranks Barry Brunetti, Jeffrey Godfrey, Terrance Broadway, and Munchie Legaux ahead of Bolden (All are 4 star athletes.).
http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=2389
Nice to see that 3 of the top 5 uncommittted DT QBs are at least interested in the Ducks.
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:50 pm
by UOducksTK1
karlhungis wrote:We need a good QB as well though and this isn't the best time to be pulling from a weaker talent pool. If we don't land our guy this year, we will be up against a wall next year.
I still don't think a QB in this class is an absolute need. Someone like Bolden, Legaux, or Walker would be fine. And if we miss out, we still have Masoli, Roper, DT, etc returning. RB is gonna be a bigger concern because once Blount is gone, we'll be missing that physical back. Grant, James, Barner, and Alston are all quick and finesse players. Adding a big back in this class could be key to Oregon's future success.
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:08 pm
by RuhlandAsherBestEver
All I'm saying is that there is no reason to take an average QB this year when we still have Masoli for another
year. Then there is a possibility that Costa can get a 6th year and we have DT. The position of need is RB
A) Blount is not an every down back which will be clear this year and B) We have no RB'S waiting that can carry
the ball 15 to 18 times and take the pounding next year.
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:54 pm
by Oracle
UOducksTK1 wrote:
I still don't think a QB in this class is an absolute need. Someone like Bolden, Legaux, or Walker would be fine. And if we miss out, we still have Masoli, Roper, DT, etc returning. RB is gonna be a bigger concern because once Blount is gone, we'll be missing that physical back. Grant, James, Barner, and Alston are all quick and finesse players. Adding a big back in this class could be key to Oregon's future success.
No offense but our recruiting this year isn't about next year. Sure we have Masoli, Costa, Roper and DT coming back for 2010 but if you think we can skip a QB this year and have nothing but true Frosh to back up DT in 2011 and get the kind of performance we have come to expect when he has to sit for injury I think you're sorely mistaken.
1st year freshmen QBs have a pretty poor track record playing D1 BCS level football.
Darron Thomas is very likely to get injured at some point in the '11 season. You honestly think that a true frosh backup is the answer?
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
I would be willing to bet almost anything that the coaches agree with me and that we will take a QB this cycle, even if we miss out on the few big names. We simply have to have somebody with some experience with the playbook to backup Darron in 2011.
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:00 pm
by Oracle
RuhlandAsherBestEver wrote:All I'm saying is that there is no reason to take an average QB this year when we still have Masoli for another
year. Then there is a possibility that Costa can get a 6th year and we have DT. The position of need is RB
A) Blount is not an every down back which will be clear this year and B) We have no RB'S waiting that can carry
the ball 15 to 18 times and take the pounding next year.
See above. Masoli, Costa, and Roper will all be Juniors this fall. Seniors in 2010. Costa
may be able to get a 6th year but depending on him for the '11 season is a pretty big chance to take with his injury history and the vague NCAA decision making process.
I don't disagree that we need RB's in this class. I just think that it is more important to get a QB if we don't want to slip back into 6-6 type mediocrity if we have an injury to Thomas in 2011.
In 2011 we will have Lamichael James, Ethan Grant, whoever else we get in this round, and whoever we recruit next cycle. It's a lot easier to play RB as a true frosh than to play QB.
Do you guys remember the UCLA game from '07? How about the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the Boise St. game this past year?
I don't ever want to see a repeat of that.
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:07 am
by Boom
I wouldn't be surprised if Hawkins does develop into a QB. Not sure why everyone has written him off to be a receiver. Has a coach or the kid say he's going to play receiver?
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:48 am
by UOducksTK1
Oracle wrote:UOducksTK1 wrote:
I still don't think a QB in this class is an absolute need. Someone like Bolden, Legaux, or Walker would be fine. And if we miss out, we still have Masoli, Roper, DT, etc returning. RB is gonna be a bigger concern because once Blount is gone, we'll be missing that physical back. Grant, James, Barner, and Alston are all quick and finesse players. Adding a big back in this class could be key to Oregon's future success.
No offense but our recruiting this year isn't about next year. Sure we have Masoli, Costa, Roper and DT coming back for 2010 but if you think we can skip a QB this year and have nothing but true Frosh to back up DT in 2011 and get the kind of performance we have come to expect when he has to sit for injury I think you're sorely mistaken.
1st year freshmen QBs have a pretty poor track record playing D1 BCS level football.
Darron Thomas is very likely to get injured at some point in the '11 season. You honestly think that a true frosh backup is the answer?
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
I would be willing to bet almost anything that the coaches agree with me and that we will take a QB this cycle, even if we miss out on the few big names. We simply have to have somebody with some experience with the playbook to backup Darron in 2011.
Roper seemed to do fine as a true freshman backup when Dixon/Leaf/And Co went down.
You are probably right though, it's likely we will land someone. But I still think there is a greater need to land a big time RB this class than there is to land a big time QB.
But you are right, even getting someone like Shreve (or some other 3 star prospect) would be a good insurance for out team.
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:51 am
by UOducksTK1
Oracle wrote:RuhlandAsherBestEver wrote:All I'm saying is that there is no reason to take an average QB this year when we still have Masoli for another
year. Then there is a possibility that Costa can get a 6th year and we have DT. The position of need is RB
A) Blount is not an every down back which will be clear this year and B) We have no RB'S waiting that can carry
the ball 15 to 18 times and take the pounding next year.
See above. Masoli, Costa, and Roper will all be Juniors this fall. Seniors in 2010. Costa
may be able to get a 6th year but depending on him for the '11 season is a pretty big chance to take with his injury history and the vague NCAA decision making process.
I don't disagree that we need RB's in this class. I just think that it is more important to get a QB if we don't want to slip back into 6-6 type mediocrity if we have an injury to Thomas in 2011.
In 2011 we will have Lamichael James, Ethan Grant, whoever else we get in this round, and whoever we recruit next cycle. It's a lot easier to play RB as a true frosh than to play QB.
Do you guys remember the UCLA game from '07? How about the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the Boise St. game this past year?
I don't ever want to see a repeat of that.
Let's say we land a 5 star QB in this years class, redshirt him and have him behind DT in 2011. Who is to say DT won't get hurt and this new recruit flops just like Harper did against Boise State? Or Cody Kempt against OSU?
I just don't see that big of a difference from landing a QB this season or next. Clearly getting someone capable of playing QB in case of injuries would be nice! But I still think landing a big time RB would be more beneficial to the team.
Re: Recruiting Roundtable (rivals.com)
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:04 am
by ncduck
Why does everyone see this as all or nothing? Are there zero JC QB's that could be signed next year? They wouldn't be true freshman. They could be a nice stop gap back up while we develop the underclassmen.
Yes, it would be great to get a top notch QB this year. But if we don't we aren't going to somehow become UW or WSU in one year. There are options and the staff know the options.