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George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:31 pm
by jimmy12
I read on one of the pay sites that George Uko may now be out of play. Can anyone confirm?

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:02 pm
by Mops
If one game plays a role in canceling visits or making you totally not interested anymore than we never had a shot in the first place IMO.

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:39 pm
by blackjack17
i hope he doesn't rule us out. If he wants early play time this is the team for him to join.

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:40 pm
by pudgejeff
Who said it was one game?...maybe it was the way a player was dealt with...I for one would not send my child to a school that threw severe punishments around so quickly, easily and lightly just to save the school's face and forget why these kids are here

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:36 pm
by GoDucksIn09
Ok Ok so what part of fighting with own team players and hitting his own team players.. not to mention fighting with security.. is ok with you. Blount got what he deserved. I would gladly send my kids to a school that has given blount chances before this all came about.. and took a stand when he clearly hit one of his own players. Somethings in life are just not acceptable behaviour.. this is a statement of what is.. and what isnt acceptable team behaviour. I still applaud the university for the actions they took.

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:41 pm
by maxduck
"I'm going to cancel my visit with Tennessee and Oklahoma and probably Oregon too," Uko said. "Right now, it's Cal and USC and that's it. I'm hoping to take my official visit to USC for their next home game (Sept. 26) and then decide between those two schools.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/ind ... Recruiting

Nothing sinister, he just had a great visit at Cal.

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:52 pm
by echo31
GoDucksIn09 wrote:Ok Ok so what part of fighting with own team players and hitting his own team players.. not to mention fighting with security.. is ok with you. Blount got what he deserved. I would gladly send my kids to a school that has given blount chances before this all came about.. and took a stand when he clearly hit one of his own players. Somethings in life are just not acceptable behaviour.. this is a statement of what is.. and what isnt acceptable team behaviour. I still applaud the university for the actions they took.
BRAVO!

The way the school dealt with it is more than likely a positive for recruiting. Do we really want any recruits who look at this situation and think, "man, I don't want to go to a school that doesn't allow me to go apeshit and punch a bunch of people on national television"? I know I don't want kids like that representing the school I attended.

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:30 pm
by greenyellow
maxduck wrote:"I'm going to cancel my visit with Tennessee and Oklahoma and probably Oregon too," Uko said. "Right now, it's Cal and USC and that's it. I'm hoping to take my official visit to USC for their next home game (Sept. 26) and then decide between those two schools.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/ind ... Recruiting

Nothing sinister, he just had a great visit at Cal.
That sucks. Oregon has to find a way to get some top DTs that can actually qualify. The freshman DTs we got this year were not the greatest and aren't ready to play. We are getting to overly reliant on JC transfers that take a year to develop and only produce for 1 year. If there was one position that I wish the coaches would recruit better at, it is DT.

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:33 pm
by echo31
greenyellow wrote:If there was one position that I wish the coaches would recruit better at, it is DT.
agreed

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:42 pm
by greenyellow
I have a feeling that one of the reasons Gray was let go was because of the continued problems for DT recruiting. At the point where Oregon is in program progression, they shouldn't have to rely on JC transfers and converted DEs to play DT.

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:04 pm
by wheaton4prez
How does it make logical sense to think that Blount's punishment will be applauded by recruits?

"I don't want to go to school that allows me to go apeshit because I definitely would go apeshit if I could!"

I don't see how punishing Blount severely will serve recruiting in any positive way. If anything, it will make people think that Kelly is not a "players coach" that protects his players interests, handling things "internally", etc.

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:03 pm
by fecta23
wheaton4prez wrote:How does it make logical sense to think that Blount's punishment will be applauded by recruits?

"I don't want to go to school that allows me to go apeshit because I definitely would go apeshit if I could!"

I don't see how punishing Blount severely will serve recruiting in any positive way. If anything, it will make people think that Kelly is not a "players coach" that protects his players interests, handling things "internally", etc.

I think it will help qualm the parents fears that this is program where actions like his are tolerated.

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:49 pm
by Tray Dub
wheaton4prez wrote:How does it make logical sense to think that Blount's punishment will be applauded by recruits?

"I don't want to go to school that allows me to go apeshit because I definitely would go apeshit if I could!"

I don't see how punishing Blount severely will serve recruiting in any positive way. If anything, it will make people think that Kelly is not a "players coach" that protects his players interests, handling things "internally", etc.
Parents who think that the coaches allow thugs who beat up other players (which may not be the case with Blount, but it sure is his perception in the eyes of many) now don't think that. Oregon fans should know by now how important parents can be in recruiting.

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:03 pm
by huckthefuskies
wheaton4prez wrote:How does it make logical sense to think that Blount's punishment will be applauded by recruits?

"I don't want to go to school that allows me to go apeshit because I definitely would go apeshit if I could!"

I don't see how punishing Blount severely will serve recruiting in any positive way. If anything, it will make people think that Kelly is not a "players coach" that protects his players interests, handling things "internally", etc.

As a players and parents point of view the uni didn't reneg on the scholorship or even the facilitities. They are giving him a chance to succeed.
I like you wheat, but I think you are in the minority of the countries take on Blount and his punishment. He messed up and god willing he will come out of this stronger and better off. It might not be fair but sometimes even being drafted earlier to the wrong team can slow a player from showing his skills/value to the league (costing him millions on his overall carreer). If Blount is determined he can still reach his dreams regardless.
Ps. am I the only one that feels Kelly has done/ put more effort into bonding with the recruits than their parents so far? Seems like the farther one heads east the more important parents will become... At some point convincing them might be more important than the recruit themselves... anyways just a thought

edit... In all fairness maybe he is putting the effort in but the other coaches are winning THAT battle.

Re: George Uko

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:10 pm
by wheaton4prez
fecta23 wrote:I think it will help qualm the parents fears that this is program where actions like his are tolerated.
I understand that idea. But, is it true? Is that a fear that any parents really have? Even parents with kids considering Miami, did Brown's parents ever mention concern that it's a place where that is tolerated?
Tray Dub wrote:Parents who think that the coaches allow thugs who beat up other players (which may not be the case with Blount, but it sure is his perception in the eyes of many) now don't think that. Oregon fans should know by now how important parents can be in recruiting.
Parents are important, for sure. I just don't think it's true that any of them are looking to make sure that the players get disciplined severely. Why would that benefit them to know that if their kid messes up, they can be sure that they will receive the harshest penalty?
huckthefuskies wrote:As a players and parents point of view the uni didn't reneg on the scholorship or even the facilitities. They are giving him a chance to succeed.
I like you wheat, but I think you are in the minority of the countries take on Blount and his punishment. He messed up and god willing he will come out of this stronger and better off. It might not be fair but sometimes even being drafted earlier to the wrong team can slow a player from showing his skills/value to the league (costing him millions on his overall carreer). If Blount is determined he can still reach his dreams regardless.
True that life isn't always fair. In this case, I take it personally because this is the program I spend my time following and dollars supporting. If something isn't right, it's up to us to say or do something about, if for no other reason than to be sure that it doesn't happen that way again. For another example, any BSU fans interested in integrity and accountability should be calling for Hout to be punished, apologize and disclose what he said.

I'm not sure that you are right about the majority of the country on Blounts punishment. Everyone agrees that he needed to be punished. But, it looks a lot more closely divided regarding what his punishment should be. Most polled on this board thought it should be something less than a full season. Many analysts, bloggers, etc. have said they were surprised by the whole season punishment. Many are saying that Hout deserved what he got.
huckthefuskies wrote:Ps. am I the only one that feels Kelly has done/ put more effort into bonding with the recruits than their parents so far? Seems like the farther one heads east the more important parents will become... At some point convincing them might be more important than the recruit themselves... anyways just a thought
It's possible. I just don't see the reasoning for why it would.