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Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:09 am
by scoducks
Just reading the tea leaves on this one, but is there a possible flip here from Coach Cristobal? Adrian Klemm was his primary recruiter, and we all know he just got fired from UCLA. Also along with that Cristobal and Ray started following each other on twitter. Could be something to keep an eye on.

http://247sports.com/player/kanan-ray-87614

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:23 am
by Handsome Dan
i dont want a 3 star guard. we didn't drop $4M on ace recruiters to steal shitty recruits from inferior programs.

:3

(He looks like a good target considering the offer list, but that photo is baaaaaaaad.)

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:32 am
by duckfan22
Handsome Dan wrote:i dont want a 3 star guard. we didn't drop $4M on ace recruiters to steal shitty recruits from inferior programs.

:3

(He looks like a good target considering the offer list, but that photo is baaaaaaaad.)
A well coached team can take that 3* and make him a 5* Case in point Marcus Mariota was a 3*
if a coach like Cristobal sees something in a player we have to trust his judgement. the rating system
is only that. Sometimes 5* only turn out to be 3* once they get on the field. I judge a players rating once
hes been here 3-4 years with only so many spots open i doubt they use one on the fly.

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:35 am
by Handsome Dan
duckfan22 wrote:
Handsome Dan wrote:i dont want a 3 star guard. we didn't drop $4M on ace recruiters to steal shitty recruits from inferior programs.

:3

(He looks like a good target considering the offer list, but that photo is baaaaaaaad.)
A well coached team can take that 3* and make him a 5* Case in point Marcus Mariota was a 3*
if a coach like Cristobal sees something in a player we have to trust his judgement. the rating system
is only that. Sometimes 5* only turn out to be 3* once they get on the field. I judge a players rating once
hes been here 3-4 years with only so many spots open i doubt they use one on the fly.
The parentheses were supposed to communicate I was joking. :(

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:36 am
by duckfan22
Handsome Dan wrote:
duckfan22 wrote:
Handsome Dan wrote:i dont want a 3 star guard. we didn't drop $4M on ace recruiters to steal shitty recruits from inferior programs.

:3

(He looks like a good target considering the offer list, but that photo is baaaaaaaad.)
A well coached team can take that 3* and make him a 5* Case in point Marcus Mariota was a 3*
if a coach like Cristobal sees something in a player we have to trust his judgement. the rating system
is only that. Sometimes 5* only turn out to be 3* once they get on the field. I judge a players rating once
hes been here 3-4 years with only so many spots open i doubt they use one on the fly.
The parentheses were supposed to communicate I was joking. :(
sorry i missed that......lol

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:52 am
by Handsome Dan
duckfan22 wrote:
Handsome Dan wrote:
duckfan22 wrote:
Handsome Dan wrote:i dont want a 3 star guard. we didn't drop $4M on ace recruiters to steal shitty recruits from inferior programs.

:3

(He looks like a good target considering the offer list, but that photo is baaaaaaaad.)
A well coached team can take that 3* and make him a 5* Case in point Marcus Mariota was a 3*
if a coach like Cristobal sees something in a player we have to trust his judgement. the rating system
is only that. Sometimes 5* only turn out to be 3* once they get on the field. I judge a players rating once
hes been here 3-4 years with only so many spots open i doubt they use one on the fly.
The parentheses were supposed to communicate I was joking. :(
sorry i missed that......lol
oh lol to be fair the :3 emoji was also part of that and it's not very obvious sometimes.

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:59 pm
by Sir-1
I'd actually be surprised if we don't flip him. I think with Klemm out, Cristobal will get his man.

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Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:36 pm
by karlhungis
duckfan22 wrote:
Handsome Dan wrote:i dont want a 3 star guard. we didn't drop $4M on ace recruiters to steal shitty recruits from inferior programs.

:3

(He looks like a good target considering the offer list, but that photo is baaaaaaaad.)
A well coached team can take that 3* and make him a 5* Case in point Marcus Mariota was a 3*
if a coach like Cristobal sees something in a player we have to trust his judgement. the rating system
is only that. Sometimes 5* only turn out to be 3* once they get on the field. I judge a players rating once
hes been here 3-4 years with only so many spots open i doubt they use one on the fly.
I realize it was a joke but we didn't hire Cristobal for his coaching prowess.

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:39 pm
by duckfan22
karlhungis wrote:
duckfan22 wrote:
Handsome Dan wrote:i dont want a 3 star guard. we didn't drop $4M on ace recruiters to steal shitty recruits from inferior programs.

:3

(He looks like a good target considering the offer list, but that photo is baaaaaaaad.)
A well coached team can take that 3* and make him a 5* Case in point Marcus Mariota was a 3*
if a coach like Cristobal sees something in a player we have to trust his judgement. the rating system
is only that. Sometimes 5* only turn out to be 3* once they get on the field. I judge a players rating once
hes been here 3-4 years with only so many spots open i doubt they use one on the fly.
I realize it was a joke but we didn't hire Cristobal for his coaching prowess.
double bonus not only in the top two as a recruiter but also Alabama had the #1 ol in the country. they say he
is an excellent coach as well

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:09 pm
by karlhungis
Most of the Bama fans and FIU fans I've seen discussing him haven't spoken very highly of his coaching, only his recruiting. I'm sure it is a sour grapes "we didn't need him anyways" kind of a situation though.

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:13 pm
by Phenom
karlhungis wrote:Most of the Bama fans and FIU fans I've seen discussing him haven't spoken very highly of his coaching, only his recruiting. I'm sure it is a sour grapes "we didn't need him anyways" kind of a situation though.
His accolades speak for themselves. Look at how his players have played.

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:14 pm
by karlhungis
Phenom wrote:
karlhungis wrote:Most of the Bama fans and FIU fans I've seen discussing him haven't spoken very highly of his coaching, only his recruiting. I'm sure it is a sour grapes "we didn't need him anyways" kind of a situation though.
His accolades speak for themselves. Look at how his players have played.
Pretty easy to play well when you have a line loaded with NFL talent though.

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:44 pm
by Phenom
karlhungis wrote:
Phenom wrote:
karlhungis wrote:Most of the Bama fans and FIU fans I've seen discussing him haven't spoken very highly of his coaching, only his recruiting. I'm sure it is a sour grapes "we didn't need him anyways" kind of a situation though.
His accolades speak for themselves. Look at how his players have played.
Pretty easy to play well when you have a line loaded with NFL talent though.
Yeah, but he recruited them. He's an elite recruiter and a very good coach. The best combination in college football.

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:32 pm
by FlDuckFan
Phenom wrote:
karlhungis wrote:
Phenom wrote:
karlhungis wrote:Most of the Bama fans and FIU fans I've seen discussing him haven't spoken very highly of his coaching, only his recruiting. I'm sure it is a sour grapes "we didn't need him anyways" kind of a situation though.
His accolades speak for themselves. Look at how his players have played.
Pretty easy to play well when you have a line loaded with NFL talent though.
Yeah, but he recruited them. He's an elite recruiter and a very good coach. The best combination in college football.
Few FIU alums I know who were there when he coached have said pretty glowing things about him and his coaching.

Re: Kanan Ray, 3* Guard, UCLA Commit

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:20 pm
by karlhungis
FlDuckFan wrote:
Phenom wrote:
karlhungis wrote:
Phenom wrote:
karlhungis wrote:Most of the Bama fans and FIU fans I've seen discussing him haven't spoken very highly of his coaching, only his recruiting. I'm sure it is a sour grapes "we didn't need him anyways" kind of a situation though.
His accolades speak for themselves. Look at how his players have played.
Pretty easy to play well when you have a line loaded with NFL talent though.
Yeah, but he recruited them. He's an elite recruiter and a very good coach. The best combination in college football.
Few FIU alums I know who were there when he coached have said pretty glowing things about him and his coaching.
I'm reading that as a negative thing. Few have said nice things. Or should I be reading it as a positive? The few I've spoken to have said glowing things.

Sorry, I'm a simpleton.