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OregonFan4Life wrote:Well there goes my optimism regarding Sopsher!


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Don't give up all hope. Chip Kelly implied on the PAC-12 early signing special that Oregon and others give out lots of uncommittable offers. This could well be a "we'd love to have you if we don't get the guy we really love more" offer.

Yeah, don't get your hopes up with Sopsher.

Did anyone else feel that Chip didn't put his best foot forward in that Signing Day interview? Don't get me wrong -- mad respect for Chip, and I fully understand the point he's making -- but he came off as borderline whiny. I don't think it helped that, so far, he is faceplanting while trying to recruit to UCLA -- UCLA! (Which I'd capitalize for emphasis if it weren't already capitalized.) Like, when Nick Saban says something about recruiting, people listen... but Chip? His lack of understanding of today's recruiting game really diminishes his credibility, even though his points are valid.

He also looked like he just climbed out of bed and threw a shirt on.

TBH, it seems like Chip doesn't care about it as much as he used to. Not saying it he's mailing it in but he's different.

He's never cared about it.

I’ll honestly be surprised if he succeeds at UCLA. His stubbornness and inability to adapt will do him in. Not in coaching or scheme, I think he’s adaptable there. But he can’t scheme his way into 10 wins with lesser talent anymore like he could at Oregon. And he doesn’t seem to recognize that.

wlduck wrote:I’ll honestly be surprised if he succeeds at UCLA. His stubbornness and inability to adapt will do him in. Not in coaching or scheme, I think he’s adaptable there. But he can’t scheme his way into 10 wins with lesser talent anymore like he could at Oregon. And he doesn’t seem to recognize that.

Only way Chip does well at UCLA is if he has a quality group of assistant coaches
that can recruit. He hates recruiting. He did so well here because no body played that
fast. He was an innovator. Now everyone is doing it. He has to be able make the changes
lose the stubbornness that he displayed here at times.

Did Chip not land Buckner, DAT, and Armstead?

GrantDuck wrote:Did Chip not land Buckner, DAT, and Armstead?

He did, but I think the point the other poster is trying to make is that when oregon got those guys, they were literally blowing every team off the field in the first half of games, sans a few elite teams. As a result, on the field results contributed greatly to Oregon landing those guys. That is not what is going on at UCLA right now, so he can’t be as stubborn and just ingone recruiting.

That being said, he is a great coach and motivator, so he may still turn the corner with average recruit so.

I would bet on Chip getting to the PAC-12 championship game before Oregon does. While even for Chip recruiting helps, but Player Development >>> Recruiting. While some may think he doesn't care, Chip cares tremendously about getting players he thinks he can develop. He cares more about length, frame, mobility, hand size, athletic versatility, academic viability and coachability than how much a player dominated opponents 50 lbs less than them in high school and what their star rating is. Even with his love of those things, he still is even bigger on CULTURE as he is willing to throw out all those measurables and take and love a 5'9" QB recruit who is his cultural dream player.

Does anyone remember facing them this year with a true freshman QB and 50 some scholarship players and thinking wow if not for a couple of breaks this would be close, and not looking forward to playing them in a couple of years.

I gots me a dollar to bet (and I'd love to lose it). And no I don't want that to happen. I want the Ducks to win every game, but its what I think will happen.

GrandpaDuck wrote:I would bet on Chip getting to the PAC-12 championship game before Oregon does. While even for Chip recruiting helps, but Player Development >>> Recruiting. While some may think he doesn't care, Chip cares tremendously about getting players he thinks he can develop. He cares more about length, frame, mobility, hand size, athletic versatility, academic viability and coachability than how much a player dominated opponents 50 lbs less than them in high school and what their star rating is. Even with his love of those things, he still is even bigger on CULTURE as he is willing to throw out all those measurables and take and love a 5'9" QB recruit who is his cultural dream player.

Does anyone remember facing them this year with a true freshman QB and 50 some scholarship players and thinking wow if not for a couple of breaks this would be close, and not looking forward to playing them in a couple of years.

I gots me a dollar to bet (and I'd love to lose it). And no I don't want that to happen. I want the Ducks to win every game, but its what I think will happen.

Oregon will be chips biggest pain. MC is building exactly what it takes to kill chips teams

I think if chip stayed he/we would still be getting top 10-15 classes. Oregon was recruiting itself at that point fairly successfully. We would have maintained our success far greater than we did with MH and recruits loved chip at that time.

In hindsight he should have stayed with a good thing here because he’s not like cristobal or even Taggart in the sense that he’s willing to outwork on the recruiting front.

GrandpaDuck wrote:I would bet on Chip getting to the PAC-12 championship game before Oregon does. While even for Chip recruiting helps, but Player Development >>> Recruiting. While some may think he doesn't care, Chip cares tremendously about getting players he thinks he can develop. He cares more about length, frame, mobility, hand size, athletic versatility, academic viability and coachability than how much a player dominated opponents 50 lbs less than them in high school and what their star rating is. Even with his love of those things, he still is even bigger on CULTURE as he is willing to throw out all those measurables and take and love a 5'9" QB recruit who is his cultural dream player.

Does anyone remember facing them this year with a true freshman QB and 50 some scholarship players and thinking wow if not for a couple of breaks this would be close, and not looking forward to playing them in a couple of years.

I gots me a dollar to bet (and I'd love to lose it). And no I don't want that to happen. I want the Ducks to win every game, but its what I think will happen.

I think UCLA is going to win the South next season. Mostly because everyone else in the South outside of Utah/ASU is a dumpster fire.

GrandpaDuck wrote:I would bet on Chip getting to the PAC-12 championship game before Oregon does. While even for Chip recruiting helps, but Player Development >>> Recruiting. While some may think he doesn't care, Chip cares tremendously about getting players he thinks he can develop. He cares more about length, frame, mobility, hand size, athletic versatility, academic viability and coachability than how much a player dominated opponents 50 lbs less than them in high school and what their star rating is. Even with his love of those things, he still is even bigger on CULTURE as he is willing to throw out all those measurables and take and love a 5'9" QB recruit who is his cultural dream player.

Does anyone remember facing them this year with a true freshman QB and 50 some scholarship players and thinking wow if not for a couple of breaks this would be close, and not looking forward to playing them in a couple of years.

I gots me a dollar to bet (and I'd love to lose it). And no I don't want that to happen. I want the Ducks to win every game, but its what I think will happen.

I’ll take that bet and that chip kool aid as well. Chip already has had a bad season and bad last couple years of coaching period.


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thegb2001 wrote:

GrandpaDuck wrote:I would bet on Chip getting to the PAC-12 championship game before Oregon does. While even for Chip recruiting helps, but Player Development >>> Recruiting. While some may think he doesn't care, Chip cares tremendously about getting players he thinks he can develop. He cares more about length, frame, mobility, hand size, athletic versatility, academic viability and coachability than how much a player dominated opponents 50 lbs less than them in high school and what their star rating is. Even with his love of those things, he still is even bigger on CULTURE as he is willing to throw out all those measurables and take and love a 5'9" QB recruit who is his cultural dream player.

Does anyone remember facing them this year with a true freshman QB and 50 some scholarship players and thinking wow if not for a couple of breaks this would be close, and not looking forward to playing them in a couple of years.

I gots me a dollar to bet (and I'd love to lose it). And no I don't want that to happen. I want the Ducks to win every game, but its what I think will happen.

I’ll take that bet and that chip kool aid as well. Chip already has had a bad season and bad last couple years of coaching period.


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Kool Aid is delicious. I'll put that dollar in escrow. I hope you win!