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In no surprise, Payton Pritchard has been named Pac-12 Player of the Year.

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Congrats! Amazing season for PP!

Pritchard for President of the U.S.!!!!!

Glad to see a kid I watched play HS ball go so far. Amazing player.

Not surprising that Cronin from UCLA got the Coach Award. It was the perfect scenario, first year, team picked near the bottom, goes on a furious win streak gets to 2nd place. Of course they're still on the bubble. Meanwhile Altman gets a team of newbies and injuries, again, to 1st place, beating UCLA 96-75. WBB got the Coach award right.

COTY typically goes to the coach who has his team exceed preseason expectations so with Oregon being the preseason conference favorite, Altman was likely never going to win it.

greenyellow wrote:COTY typically goes to the coach who has his team exceed preseason expectations so with Oregon being the preseason conference favorite, Altman was likely never going to win it.

Right, as I said, no surprise that Cronin got it. Also, interesting that even though WBB was picked to win, they were so superior that Graves had to get COTY.

Merganzer wrote:

greenyellow wrote:COTY typically goes to the coach who has his team exceed preseason expectations so with Oregon being the preseason conference favorite, Altman was likely never going to win it.

Right, as I said, no surprise that Cronin got it. Also, interesting that even though WBB was picked to win, they were so superior that Graves had to get COTY.

if you're the favorite, you have to show no doubt that your team is the best in the conference. WBB more than proved by easily dispatching all the other ranked teams in the conference on multiple occasions.

As far as I'm concerned, Coach Altman is the runaway coach of the year. The job he did filling a roster after several guys with delusions of NBA grandeur decided to bolt was nothing short of miraculous. The way he turned over every rock - combed the JC ranks, the grad transfer portal, the recent academic qualifiers, and then getting two top-notch re-classifiers at the last minute...to say that the Ducks were favored to win merely demonstrates what a recruiting masterpiece he built. That isn't part of a coach's job?

I like Pritchard, and I'm glad he won, but saying he came back to prove he is the best player in the country was a bit of a turn-off. Better to let others say it than to toot your own horn.

Phalanx wrote:As far as I'm concerned, Coach Altman is the runaway coach of the year. The job he did filling a roster after several guys with delusions of NBA grandeur decided to bolt was nothing short of miraculous. The way he turned over every rock - combed the JC ranks, the grad transfer portal, the recent academic qualifiers, and then getting two top-notch re-classifiers at the last minute...to say that the Ducks were favored to win merely demonstrates what a recruiting masterpiece he built. That isn't part of a coach's job?

I like Pritchard, and I'm glad he won, but saying he came back to prove he is the best player in the country was a bit of a turn-off. Better to let others say it than to toot your own horn.

Agree with everything. No doubt that CoTY annually is a joke. Pretty much an Aw shucks award, presented to a coach, who's team isn't expected to do anything...and for 3/4 of a season, UCLA didn't do anything. But then, suddenly, Cronin is a great coach? And UCLA climbs all the way up to Bubble Team.
On Pritchard, Owning Washington was fine, he never lost there. Best player in the country?

Altman has long been considered the best pure coach in the Pac-12 by the press and general public for some time now. I think the difficulty with that is that it's hard to sell other coaches when he's so far above them. I don't think it would be as bad if their was this outright rivalry. But Altman's a HOFer and it's so blatantly obvious that he runs a stellar program in every way. Maybe the only one in the Pac-12 right now. It's like when Lute Olson was at UA. He's "the man." But there were other name coaches in the league back in Olson's time that drew some respect, Mike Montgomery at Stanford and even Henry Bibby at USC. The league was a lot stronger then. So giving it to "the other guy" then wouldn't be as big a deal as it is now.

Honestly, I don't think any coach deserved COY, I guess by default Altman should've gotten it. But for his normal standards I don't think this was a very good year for Altman. They lost some pretty bad road games to inferior teams while playing some ugly team basketball. But like I said, it's not like any other coach was much better than him if at all. But I'm sure Oregon will start playing their best basketball of the season now and will find a way to make it to the Elite Eight or something like that, cause that's just what Altman teams do.

According to this article: https://fishduck.com/2020/03/altmans-du ... qus_thread

Pritchard, with 1938 points, is a basket away from moving past, Anthony Taylor, 1939, in to 3rd place. Luke Jackson is 2nd, 1970, and Ronnie Lee is 1st, 2085. To pass Lee, Pritchard would need 148 points. If the Ducks make it to the championship game in the conference tournament, and the Sweet 16, 6 games, Pritchard would need to average, 24.7 per game. Should Pritchard get the 6 games that will make it 150. Lee played in 115 games, w/o a shot clock or a 3 point line.

Merganzer wrote:According to this article: https://fishduck.com/2020/03/altmans-du ... qus_thread

Pritchard, with 1938 points, is a basket away from moving past, Anthony Taylor, 1939, in to 3rd place. Luke Jackson is 2nd, 1970, and Ronnie Lee is 1st, 2085. To pass Lee, Pritchard would need 148 points. If the Ducks make it to the championship game in the conference tournament, and the Sweet 16, 6 games, Pritchard would need to average, 24.7 per game. Should Pritchard get the 6 games that will make it 150. Lee played in 115 games, w/o a shot clock or a 3 point line.

For those of you who didn't have the opportunity to witness Ronnie Lee in action, it's truly sad that there isn't significant quality video available to share. It was a glorious experience.

I would love to see Altman get 3-4 seasons from a player of that caliber, intensity, and drive. Throw in a Power Forward like Greg Ballard to build around, and Matt Court would be rocking!

Such are the dreams of the Mac Court "deranged idiots"...

woundedknees wrote:

Merganzer wrote:According to this article: https://fishduck.com/2020/03/altmans-du ... qus_thread

Pritchard, with 1938 points, is a basket away from moving past, Anthony Taylor, 1939, in to 3rd place. Luke Jackson is 2nd, 1970, and Ronnie Lee is 1st, 2085. To pass Lee, Pritchard would need 148 points. If the Ducks make it to the championship game in the conference tournament, and the Sweet 16, 6 games, Pritchard would need to average, 24.7 per game. Should Pritchard get the 6 games that will make it 150. Lee played in 115 games, w/o a shot clock or a 3 point line.

For those of you who didn't have the opportunity to witness Ronnie Lee in action, it's truly sad that there isn't significant quality video available to share. It was a glorious experience.

I would love to see Altman get 3-4 seasons from a player of that caliber, intensity, and drive. Throw in a Power Forward like Greg Ballard to build around, and Matt Court would be rocking!

Such are the dreams of the Mac Court "deranged idiots"...

Amen to that! Harter was the perfect coach for the Kamikaze Kids. But, imagining Altman working with Lee, Ballard, Ernie (Million Moves) Kent, Gerald Willett, Mark Barwig, Mike Drummond, Bruce Coldren..ahhh!.