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Blazers trade

84 warriors 1st (top 3 protected)
Wallace Bryant

Sonics trade
84 Clippers 1st
Tom Owens
Vet FA
84 Knicks 2nd

Accept. I still keep a first rounder while acquiring a nice young talent in Wallace Bryant.

cut vet fa

and I will take a shot at hopefully some lotto balls, and if not, moving up in the draft while also thinning out the talent on my team this season

interesting, that Clippers pick could be a lotto one this year.

o_O uhhhh

^ Essentially the sonics move back in the draft, but add a mid to late 1st talent in Bryant.

You could view it as pick 16 for picks 20 and 25.

I guess it depends on how people view Bryant...I personally am not a fan

offtheheezy wrote:I guess it depends on how people view Bryant...I personally am not a fan

22 years old averaging 12 and 7 with B potential.

Like I said, you'd be hard pressed to take someone in the 15-25 range who is definitively better than that IMO.

He is not the next Moses or anything but at 2 million salary that is for sure a positive value asset.

He could conceivably be B B B- and getting 15 and 9 next season and making only 2 million.

lukeyrid13 wrote:

offtheheezy wrote:I guess it depends on how people view Bryant...I personally am not a fan

22 years old averaging 12 and 7 with B potential.

Like I said, you'd be hard pressed to take someone in the 15-25 range who is definitively better than that IMO.

He is not the next Moses or anything but at 2 million salary that is for sure a positive value asset.

He could conceivably be B B B- and getting 15 and 9 next season and making only 2 million.

It also makes a lot of sense in the context of his team building if you know he had a trade for Maxwell on hold. Bryant locks in cheap PF production for several years to offset the Maxwell and English contracts, and Maxwell is a strong rebounding SF which offsets Bryant's bit of weakness there. That 3 gives him some a nice balanced two-way trio going forward.

Cellar-door wrote:

lukeyrid13 wrote:

offtheheezy wrote:I guess it depends on how people view Bryant...I personally am not a fan

22 years old averaging 12 and 7 with B potential.

Like I said, you'd be hard pressed to take someone in the 15-25 range who is definitively better than that IMO.

He is not the next Moses or anything but at 2 million salary that is for sure a positive value asset.

He could conceivably be B B B- and getting 15 and 9 next season and making only 2 million.

It also makes a lot of sense in the context of his team building if you know he had a trade for Maxwell on hold. Bryant locks in cheap PF production for several years to offset the Maxwell and English contracts, and Maxwell is a strong rebounding SF which offsets Bryant's bit of weakness there. That 3 gives him some a nice balanced two-way trio going forward.

I think the trade with Maxwell from a value standpoint makes sense, but given the context of https://ducksattack.com/forum/viewtopic ... 27&t=35384 almost feels like the same thing again. Will be a middling team with two aging stars with 5+ year max contracts. It's better since it's a pick swap, but also lost Tyler relatively and I suspect the Hornets pick won't amount to much.

Yeah, I think this trade isn't that bad, I just personally don't believe in Bryant given he hasn't improved much in two TCs and the jump in the draft from 15 -> 25 seems pretty big. In the late first almost feels like you get stuck with a bad prospect for 4 years, early seconds feel better in that sense.

FWIW, I think they're both fine - just not a fan of the late 1sts

offtheheezy wrote:

Cellar-door wrote:

lukeyrid13 wrote:

offtheheezy wrote:I guess it depends on how people view Bryant...I personally am not a fan

22 years old averaging 12 and 7 with B potential.

Like I said, you'd be hard pressed to take someone in the 15-25 range who is definitively better than that IMO.

He is not the next Moses or anything but at 2 million salary that is for sure a positive value asset.

He could conceivably be B B B- and getting 15 and 9 next season and making only 2 million.

It also makes a lot of sense in the context of his team building if you know he had a trade for Maxwell on hold. Bryant locks in cheap PF production for several years to offset the Maxwell and English contracts, and Maxwell is a strong rebounding SF which offsets Bryant's bit of weakness there. That 3 gives him some a nice balanced two-way trio going forward.

I think the trade with Maxwell from a value standpoint makes sense, but given the context of https://ducksattack.com/forum/viewtopic ... 27&t=35384 almost feels like the same thing again. Will be a middling team with two aging stars with 5+ year max contracts. It's better since it's a pick swap, but also lost Tyler relatively and I suspect the Hornets pick won't amount to much.

Yeah, I think this trade isn't that bad, I just personally don't believe in Bryant given he hasn't improved much in two TCs and the jump in the draft from 15 -> 25 seems pretty big. In the late first almost feels like you get stuck with a bad prospect for 4 years, early seconds feel better in that sense.

FWIW, I think they're both fine - just not a fan of the late 1sts

About Bryant: I think that Bryant still has time to develop at 22 and has been averaging decent numbers on the Blazers. His contract also locks him in for three years so he could be one of the key pieces if he has a good TC for the next few years.

About Maxwell: This deal could put me in cap hell but I think its different from the other trade because Maxwell is a considerable upgrade over Tyler. Also, I’ll still have two (likely late) first rounders to add some young talent in a stacked 1984 draft and did not give up any future first rounders. I think that my team being in purgatory forces me to move to contend or to tank and I did not receive any decent offers for my good players.

Rearranging chairs on the titanic for me

Sonics need another scorer and Wallace fits that. If he grows in the next TC, this deal will look better

Done

Oregon Ownage wrote:Rearranging chairs on the titanic for me

lol I've never heard this saying in my life.

dennocj wrote:

Oregon Ownage wrote:Rearranging chairs on the titanic for me

lol I've never heard this saying in my life.

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