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STU-- Question for you
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:27 am
by jimmy12
It looks like the Ducks will finish with:
Cardwell, Avante Dickerson. (maybe Moko and unlikely JTT, Henry To'oTo'o).
If where is 1-2 spots left, is there a position that you feel the Ducks should target to reinforce the new defensive scheme ideally run by Tim Deruyter???
PS-- Avante Dickerson looks like an absolute dude.
Re: STU-- Question for you
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:18 pm
by StevensTechU
We need corners and we need to upgrade the talent at safety. Besides those two, we have pretty good talent and depth at most every other position. Transfers or additional recruits would have to be guys who are surefire NFL players.
Re: STU-- Question for you
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:27 am
by jimmy12
StevensTechU wrote:We need corners and we need to upgrade the talent at safety. Besides those two, we have pretty good talent and depth at most every other position. Transfers or additional recruits would have to be guys who are surefire NFL players.
Hearing Avante may not be a must take. That doesn't sound right.
Re: STU-- Question for you
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:27 am
by StevensTechU
I said this in the other thread, but that could be JHop's way of signaling that Dickerson is leaning elsewhere. He definitely uses the "we didn't want him anyway" every so often when Oregon coaches miss on a recruit. Unless there is another cornerback about to commit, I don't see any way Dickerson isn't a must take. We're having wide receivers switch to the position due to lack of depth for crying out loud.
Re: STU-- Question for you
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:03 am
by jimmy12
I absolutely agree . The minnesota insider said he would be "gobsmacked" if Avante didnt sign with Oregon.
Moko may be out.
Too'to may be in
Re: STU-- Question for you
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:41 am
by lukeyrid13
Too'to is an absolute must take.
If we truly switch to a 3-4, 4-3 and move away from nickel base, then safety isn't as pressing of a need. Either way, I think we need another body in the secondary. I'd much prefer we take a CB than OL like Moko.
Re: STU-- Question for you
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:18 am
by StevensTechU
I want to reiterate that in the Pac-12, the secondary is the most important defensive unit. That awful school in Seattle has maintained the best defense in the conference for years on the back of its secondary, and Cal has become a defensive stalwart of late because of the talent in their secondary. You can't just throw a couple bodies back there and call it good. Further, you can't just throw less agile safeties in at corner and call it good; you'd be much better off having corners play both corner and safety.
Oregon is desperate for corners.
Re: STU-- Question for you
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:42 pm
by HomeSickDuck
jimmy12 wrote:I absolutely agree . The minnesota insider said he would be "gobsmacked" if Avante didnt sign with Oregon.
Moko may be out.
Too'to may be in
Are we in it for Henry? He would be a monster pick up. Easy decision to take him over Moko. Looks like Dickerson might be coming, we got a CB for him. Was hoping to grab one out of the portal who is immediately ready, but he’s a good pickup.
Re: STU-- Question for you
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:17 pm
by jimmy12
I am hearing big fish:
Elias ricks (real)
Henry too’to (very real)
And either avante or raejon davis (very real)
Re: STU-- Question for you
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:24 pm
by HomeSickDuck
jimmy12 wrote:I am hearing big fish:
Elias ricks (real)
Henry too’to (very real)
And either avante or raejon davis (very real)
Any of those two would be awesome. Dickerson got two CB’s to Oregon today, one by Wiltfong. I’d obviously prefer Ricks over Avante, but either is is good and it sounds like Ricks is going to Ohio State. I haven’t heard anything about Davis or Henry, but Bama seems to want Henry so that’ll be a challenge
Re: STU-- Question for you
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:28 pm
by Phalanx
StevensTechU wrote:I said this in the other thread, but that could be JHop's way of signaling that Dickerson is leaning elsewhere. He definitely uses the "we didn't want him anyway" every so often when Oregon coaches miss on a recruit. Unless there is another cornerback about to commit, I don't see any way Dickerson isn't a must take. We're having wide receivers switch to the position due to lack of depth for crying out loud.
Is it due to lack of depth, or to a glut at receiver with several more on the way?
I am totally on board with getting Dickerson, but do we not like the guys already signed in this class, Davies and Barkins? What about Manning and Greenfield? Are they busts already, or do they fit better at safety? Is the issue that Oregon needs corners, are that the coaches are missing on the ones they got?
Re: STU-- Question for you
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:39 pm
by HomeSickDuck
Phalanx wrote:StevensTechU wrote:I said this in the other thread, but that could be JHop's way of signaling that Dickerson is leaning elsewhere. He definitely uses the "we didn't want him anyway" every so often when Oregon coaches miss on a recruit. Unless there is another cornerback about to commit, I don't see any way Dickerson isn't a must take. We're having wide receivers switch to the position due to lack of depth for crying out loud.
Is it due to lack of depth, or to a glut at receiver with several more on the way?
I am totally on board with getting Dickerson, but do we not like the guys already signed in this class, Davies and Barkins? What about Manning and Greenfield? Are they busts already, or do they fit better at safety? Is the issue that Oregon needs corners, are that the coaches are missing on the ones they got?
This is the way I see and understand it. They have Wright, James and Manning on roster for CB. Greenfield is a safety, with not a lot of youth/talent there. Davies looks like a stud, but he may not contribute right away and Barkins is an unknown. They need talent and depth at both positions.