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rsbgduck wrote:I don’t know what his times were (not sure where to go for a source) but someone who always seemed “fast” to me was WT3. Like some have said I think he was more quick and smooth vs fast. I’m a little bias, he is one of my favorites and if he wouldn’t of blown his knee I think we would be talking about him more often when mentioning the greats at Oregon.

StevensTechU wrote:GDT- Huge kudos for that post.

StevensTechU wrote:GDT- Huge kudos for that post.

GoDucksTroll wrote:

rsbgduck wrote:I don’t know what his times were (not sure where to go for a source) but someone who always seemed “fast” to me was WT3. Like some have said I think he was more quick and smooth vs fast. I’m a little bias, he is one of my favorites and if he wouldn’t of blown his knee I think we would be talking about him more often when mentioning the greats at Oregon.

Unfortunately WT3 had that knee injury that ended his final Oregon season, kept him out of the combine, and hurt his draft stock. But I agree, he would probably be in the 4.4-4.5s range. Super underrated (or semi forgotten) player by a lot of Duck fans. 253 career tackles 181 of them solo, 12 INTs, 4 defensive TD, 1 return TD. His sophomore season he finished second in the conference at tackles with 5 INTs. If he had come along now, when CBs have become more valuable with the rise of spread passing offenses, he would have been much more appreciated.

For data I use nflcombineresults.com and pro football reference. Fun things to look at when bored. Some other notable Ducks in the 40:
4.47 Alex Molden
4.48 Jonathan Stewart at 235lbs
4.48 Onterrio Smith at 220lbs
4.49 Pat Chung
4.50 Justin Hollins at 6’5.25” 248lbs (!!!)
4.51 Ugo Amadi
4.52 Marcus Mariota
4.52 Mo Morris
4.52 Kenjon Barner

GoDucksTroll wrote:Fastest is of course open to interpretation. Here are some official numbers and notes, using only official school records and NFL combine/official to the NFL numbers. 40 times from other events are just too inaccurate usually to make players seem faster.

40 yard dash (official NFL combine numbers)
4.35 LaMichael James
4.39 Samie Parker
4.42 Pat Johnson
4.43 Anthony Newman
4.45 JJ Birden
4.45 Latin Berry
4.46 Keanon Lowe
4.46 Dillon Mitchell

50m
5.80 Pat Johnson

60m
6.62 Samie Parker
6.71 Tony Brooks-James
6.77 Derrick Jones
6.77 LaMichael James
6.77 Kirk Merritt

100m
10.18 Samie Parker
10.26 Pat Johnson
10.35 Thomas Tyner (HS)
10.36 Devon Allen (in a meet for U of O)

200m
20.39 Pat Johnson
20.79 Devon Allen
20.82 Jordan Kent

110m HH
13.16 Devon Allen

400m
45.26 Pat Johnson

Notes:
* Samie Parker was an All-American sprinter. At the NCAA championships he finished 5th in the100m and 4th in the indoor 60m.
* Pat Johnson won the Pac-10 championship in the 400m as a freshman and placed second in the 200m. He quit track afterwards, according to his (almost certainly self written) Wikipedia page) for failing to make the Olympic team.
* Thomas Tyner’s 10.35 as a high school sophomore was the second fastest non wind aided by a high schooler that year, and the only non senior in the top-20. It broke the previous Oregon high school record by .07 previously held by Ryan Bailey who would finish 5th in the 100m in the 2012 Olympics. The Oregon HS record has since been shattered by current Oregon T&F freshman phenom Micah Williams, who ran an amazing 10.21. If Thomas Tyner had wanted to be a professional athlete he would be one right now.
* Jeff Maehl’s 6.42 seconds in the 3-cone drill was an NFL combine record from 2011 until recently. It’s a measure of acceleration and agility, not as valued for skill players but shows that the 40 is not all there is to measuring athleticism. Maehl’s 40 time of 4.56 seconds is in the bottom 48% of WR at the combine but his 3-cone, shuttle drill, and 60 TD shuttle were all in the top 2%.
* If anyone is curious De’Anthony Thomas had a bests of 10.57 in the 100m and 10.61. When he ran a 4.50 at the combine (4.39 at pro day) this is what Gary Campbell said: “I think when LaMichael (James) was here he had a faster 40-yard time on paper but this guy plays faster than anything you put him on the clock on. He's the fastest player on the football field that I've had.”
* The Opening does 40 yard testing with wildly low numbers, accurate to compare players head to head but not in actual times because they never replicate them. Taj Griffin clocked in as one of the fastest they tested at 4.33 seconds.
* Oregon football measures max speed in MPH as the basis for how fast a guy is. One of the players posted results the other year, Haki Woods was tops at 22.33 followed by TBJ: https://www.reddit.com/r/ducks/comments ... sting_mph/

buckmarkduck wrote:Tyner was also about 25lbs lighter when he ran that speed. At UO, I don’t believe he could have been even close to that 100 time.

duck023 wrote:It's between Lamichael James and DeAnthony Thomas. I'd lean towards James. Samie Parker and Keenan Lowe were also insanely fast.