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Sonics/Suns

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:22 am
by vincent1469
Suns send:
Billy Thompson
Mychal Thompson
Charles Bradley

Sonics send:
Alton Lister
Jim Lampley
Louis Orr
Othell Wilson

I’ll get this right eventually lol

Re: Sonics/Suns

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:27 pm
by lukeyrid13
Hmm. Lister is the best player in this deal IMO

Sonics, if you don't already. I'd suggest running deals by 1-2 other GMs each time.

Mavs, Celtics, Nets, myself, Grizzlies etc will all give good honest insight.

Re: Sonics/Suns

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:46 pm
by Craig
lukeyrid13 wrote:Hmm. Lister is the best player in this deal IMO

Sonics, if you don't already. I'd suggest running deals by 1-2 other GMs each time.

Mavs, Celtics, Nets, myself, Grizzlies etc will all give good honest insight.
Highly debatable. If you really look at him vs Thompson, any difference is negligible. In fact, for the Sonics specifically, I felt like Thompson is better for them over the course of the next 1.5 seasons than Lister since he's a much better rebounder and does everything else at pretty much the same level. At worst, it's a lateral move in exchange for getting out from under the hard cap in the off-season.

Suns accept.

Cut Kim King.

Re: Sonics/Suns

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:48 pm
by Cellar-door
I think Thompson is the best player, but I worry about his contract.

Re: Sonics/Suns

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:07 pm
by UOducksTK1
Lister is better shot blocker, less turnovers.

Unless assists for a center mean a lot to you, I’d take the better contract, better age, and better overall player.

But Thompson is comparably close.

Re: Sonics/Suns

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:09 pm
by Cellar-door
UOducksTK1 wrote:Lister is better shot blocker, less turnovers.

Unless assists for a center mean a lot to you, I’d take the better contract, better age, and better overall player.

But Thompson is comparably close.
I like Thompson a bit more (for this year) because of the passing, and marginally better rebounding. I agree thought that I wouldn't have done this deal given age and contract.

Re: Sonics/Suns

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:15 pm
by vincent1469
I mostly wanted to get rid of Wilson because I did an oopsie and extended him which took me over the hard cap next year. After this deal I am now a little bit under the hard cap next year. If Thompson doesn’t decline too badly over the next few years this deal won’t be so bad.

Re: Sonics/Suns

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:45 pm
by offtheheezy
I also prefer Lister over Mychal, a lot of it due to age and contract, but if the Sonics are trying to make any push for playoffs at all, since they don't have their 1st, this makes sense given the context of Lister's injury timeline and also the cap situation. It's almost like they merged Lister's and Wilson's contract into one player :lol: and stretched it out over three years instead of two.

Re: Sonics/Suns

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:19 pm
by Oregon Ownage
Knowing the hardcap issue this makes more sense

Lister vs. Thompson is a toss up but with Thompson being older and having a longer contract, I would prefer Lister

Done

Re: Sonics/Suns

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:49 pm
by DrBradBuss
lukeyrid13 wrote:Hmm. Lister is the best player in this deal IMO

Sonics, if you don't already. I'd suggest running deals by 1-2 other GMs each time.

Mavs, Celtics, Nets, myself, Grizzlies etc will all give good honest insight.
Don't run it by Pistons (me), Lakers, Jazz, or Cavs.
We're notorious for bad and dishonest maneuvering and advice.

Re: Sonics/Suns

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:02 pm
by lukeyrid13
^ most of those guys have tons of experience and I know personally. And I said etc. wasn’t specific as to who else to trust lol