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Cardwell question

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:04 pm
by duckfan96
Limited views of what he can do, but was impressed with his 2 runs on Friday. Will he get more touches? What Oregon rb of years past is he comparable to?

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:56 pm
by UOducksTK1
He did look nice in the small sample we had. Dye ran well too.

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:21 am
by karlhungis
Seems like he won't get many touches unless Dye gets hurt. This staff doesn't seem to trust the young guys.

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:32 am
by nogerO
karlhungis wrote:Seems like he won't get many touches unless Dye gets hurt. This staff doesn't seem to trust the young guys.

Which, when you look at the roster is a real head scratcher. But then again...

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:49 am
by Alan
He did look good for the short time he was in, to echo a sentiment voiced many times here, I wish the coaches would give the young guys some experience!

I will join the one perso that I have seen post that he likes Dye better than Verdell, I do think Dye has better production and he carries that 80’s porn star look very well! Lol.

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:05 am
by Duck07
karlhungis wrote:Seems like he won't get many touches unless Dye gets hurt. This staff doesn't seem to trust the young guys.
At which point, it will sure seem like a great idea to have given so few carries to Cardwell. Remember that Mario and Rob Moseley all got butthurt when people said that Cardwell was having a good camp after a breakout practice and was pushing for carries.



The one carry in this clip for Cardwell begins at 16:59. If I had to make a comparison based on that 1 run and his HS film, I'd say his style is somewhere between Royce Freeman and Thomas Tyner. Obviously not as big as Royce but he's taller than Tyner with good feet and getting upfield as a strider. I like that he sought out contact when it was obvious there wasn't a crease and he looks like he'll run away from some guys but not everybody. I can recall 3 carries for him on the season, the 1st of which looked dead from the snap earlier this year (stony brook?) and the 2 in the Cal game both went for solid gains. It's imperative for Dye's sake that we start to give Cardwell some more reps so that he isn't worn down in the 4th quarter.

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:01 pm
by GrantDuck
He looks solid as does Trey Benson.

I think a lot of people need to chill on the "playing the young guys" stuff, though.

The primary issue with them not playing is that we've simply had too few reps on offense because we've been sputtering there. No blowouts and no games where the offense gets a crazy rep amount..the young guys simply are not going to get playing time.

I do think we will see more of Cardwell and hope he is great. Has a sweet jump cut for sure.

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:52 pm
by StevensTechU
GrantDuck wrote:He looks solid as does Trey Benson.

I think a lot of people need to chill on the "playing the young guys" stuff, though.

The primary issue with them not playing is that we've simply had too few reps on offense because we've been sputtering there. No blowouts and no games where the offense gets a crazy rep amount..the young guys simply are not going to get playing time.

I do think we will see more of Cardwell and hope he is great. Has a sweet jump cut for sure.
I think you're right. If you look at who is getting run on defense, it's basically everybody who is healthy. I haven't seen Dickerson play as much at CB as I had hoped, but that's pretty much it.

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:04 pm
by lmduck
StevensTechU wrote:
GrantDuck wrote:He looks solid as does Trey Benson.

I think a lot of people need to chill on the "playing the young guys" stuff, though.

The primary issue with them not playing is that we've simply had too few reps on offense because we've been sputtering there. No blowouts and no games where the offense gets a crazy rep amount..the young guys simply are not going to get playing time.

I do think we will see more of Cardwell and hope he is great. Has a sweet jump cut for sure.
I think you're right. If you look at who is getting run on defense, it's basically everybody who is healthy. I haven't seen Dickerson play as much at CB as I had hoped, but that's pretty much it.
Hasn’t Dickerson been hurt?


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Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:27 am
by StevensTechU
I think he was, but then he got mentioned in a practice report which seemed to indicate that he may be healthy again.... So I'm not sure. I think with Manning's lack of development and Davies looking like a bust early, Dickerson is the guy that will have to step up to play opposite James next year, so I'm really hoping he makes it into some games.

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:13 am
by GrandpaDuck
Until last week you had 2 veteran running backs who, both weren't getting enough carries. That didn't leave much room for the youngsters. Even this last game, you had a running back who averaged 7.6 yards per carry, but only got 19 carries. How many of those 19 should have gone to someone else?

The offense needs more plays:
The defense is playing a good bend don't break defense but it is impacting the number of plays on offense. The best tweak to that would be doing better against the run without loading the box. The obvious missing piece to that is the WIL linebacker should be the teams leading tackler in this defense but with all the injuries to that position that is unlikely to happen this season.

QB play could be better but that is also unlikely to change.

Play calling could be better? We seem to have a tiny game package each week.

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:20 am
by lukeyrid13
^ This is a great point. We are running very few plays on offense the past few games.

Our offense is not using tempo, and other teams are really trying to milk the clock and limit possessions.

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:20 am
by droop10
StevensTechU wrote:I think he was, but then he got mentioned in a practice report which seemed to indicate that he may be healthy again.... So I'm not sure. I think with Manning's lack of development and Davies looking like a bust early, Dickerson is the guy that will have to step up to play opposite James next year, so I'm really hoping he makes it into some games.
How are we determining that Davies looks like a bust? Just because he's not seeing playing time at CB as a true freshman? I think we are all expecting way too much from the kids these days. People seem to expect guys to come in and deliver day 1, and if not, they are considered a bust. What happened to giving guys a few years to develop?

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:02 pm
by StevensTechU
"We" aren't, to be clear. Just me at this point, raising the point that he doesn't look like he's living up to a high 4* billing. He looked like a walk-on in the spring game, so that's where I've seen him most. The furthering evidence is that with all the turmoil at the CB spots, Davies is not only not getting snaps, he's not even on the travel squad for conference games. A high 4* who enrolled early, I would at least think would make the travel squad at a position that lacks depth behind the starters. But to reiterate, that's very much just my personal measuring stick at this juncture.

Re: Cardwell question

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:16 pm
by buckmarkduck
StevensTechU wrote:"We" aren't, to be clear. Just me at this point, raising the point that he doesn't look like he's living up to a high 4* billing. He looked like a walk-on in the spring game, so that's where I've seen him most. The furthering evidence is that with all the turmoil at the CB spots, Davies is not only not getting snaps, he's not even on the travel squad for conference games. A high 4* who enrolled early, I would at least think would make the travel squad at a position that lacks depth behind the starters. But to reiterate, that's very much just my personal measuring stick at this juncture.

Pretty sure Davies is hurt.

And I can list of a ton of 4* Fr CB who looked bad as a Fr at UO and other places. CB is a tough spot to play as a Fr. I actually haven’t thought out CB have played bad, I just hate the scheme. It’s not needed, Wright should be in the grill of his guy most plays.