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Oregon has officially announced Tony Tuioti as the new DL coach.

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Sounds like a downgrade from Joe. Hope he does well for us though!!

UOducksTK1 wrote:Sounds like a downgrade from Joe. Hope he does well for us though!!

How’s that? Joe is arguably our worst recuiter.

buckmarkduck wrote:

UOducksTK1 wrote:Sounds like a downgrade from Joe. Hope he does well for us though!!

How’s that? Joe is arguably our worst recuiter.

Yes do tell. What makes you a better judge of who should be our DL coach compared to Dan the man? Inquiring minds want to know.

buckmarkduck wrote:

UOducksTK1 wrote:Sounds like a downgrade from Joe. Hope he does well for us though!!

How’s that? Joe is arguably our worst recuiter.

https://247sports.com/coach/Joe-Salavea-1502/
Vs
https://247sports.com/coach/Tony-Tuioti-1608/

Joe involved in 7 top 150 recruits
Tony involved in 0 top 150 recruits

Also Nebraska’s run defense the last 3 seasons under Tony ranked 9, 10, and 11th in the Big 10.

Rush defense rankings
2021 Oregon 31 Nebraska 58
2020 Oregon 69 Nebraska 68 (covid year)
2019 Oregon 13 Nebraska 94

WAY to much emphasis on recruiting and not nearly enough on player development.

I will happily trade a 5* for a kid who is only a 3* and may take 2 years but turns out to play at a high level. I actually feel really great about Tuioti, I think he will teach these kids how to play at a high level.

QuackininBama wrote:WAY to much emphasis on recruiting and not nearly enough on player development.

I will happily trade a 5* for a kid who is only a 3* and may take 2 years but turns out to play at a high level. I actually feel really great about Tuioti, I think he will teach these kids how to play at a high level.

What metric are you using to feel confident in Tuioti’s player development?

Maybe Tuioti will be a great coach but his resume is below average.

Not sure if Joe didn't want to stay or what, but disappointing he's not being retained either way.

Joe is great, but he is getting paid a ton. I’m guessing that is why he isn’t being retained

As for people throwing rushing stats out there. That isn’t a metric you can use to judge a DL coach, the LB play as big a role in stopping the run.

buckmarkduck wrote:Joe is great, but he is getting paid a ton. I’m guessing that is why he isn’t being retained

As for people throwing rushing stats out there. That isn’t a metric you can use to judge a DL coach, the LB play as big a role in stopping the run.

Fair, how about sacks?

Big 10 sack rankings
2021: 10th
2020: 9th
2019: 10th

Oregon Pac-12 sack ranking
2021: 5th
2020: 4th
2019: 1st

Again there’s nothing in his resume that pops out. Below average.

UOducksTK1 wrote:

buckmarkduck wrote:Joe is great, but he is getting paid a ton. I’m guessing that is why he isn’t being retained

As for people throwing rushing stats out there. That isn’t a metric you can use to judge a DL coach, the LB play as big a role in stopping the run.

Fair, how about sacks?

Big 10 sack rankings
2021: 10th
2020: 9th
2019: 10th

Oregon Pac-12 sack ranking
2021: 5th
2020: 4th
2019: 1st

Again there’s nothing in his resume that pops out. Below average.

And at Cal, with half the talent they had a better D than Oregon. Average 3.6 yards a carry to 3.8 for UO. His DL of no bodies had more sacks than UO.

Joe wasn't a great recruiter, aside from connecting with the poly recruits and families well. But his development of players was starting to come along nicely this year. Seems like a genuinely caring guy and the only one who seemed to want to be at Oregon for the next few decades, rather than seeing Oregon as a stepping stone.

Does Tony have a niece who is a 5 star all-pac12 point guard on the WBB like Joe? I thought not. CASE CLOSED.

QuackininBama wrote:WAY to much emphasis on recruiting and not nearly enough on player development.

I will happily trade a 5* for a kid who is only a 3* and may take 2 years but turns out to play at a high level. I actually feel really great about Tuioti, I think he will teach these kids how to play at a high level.

If I’m a coach, I’ll happily take your 5 star in trade my 3 star. That’s frankly just not a smart football statement.