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5 star Kwame Evans Jr Edit: QUACK!

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 1:58 pm
by UOducksTK1
https://247sports.com/Player/Kwame-Evans-Jr-46101949/


Kel'el Ware, Dior Johnson, Mookie Cook, and potentially now Kwame Evans Jr would be the best back to back classes by a mile in Oregon history.

If DA makes this one happen, he is a magician.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 2:39 pm
by dthomas=ddixon
Two of the top five players in the nation? Never would have dreamed we would recruit on this level.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 2:49 pm
by GrandpaDuck
dthomas=ddixon wrote:Two of the top five players in the nation? Never would have dreamed we would recruit on this level.
I felt since NLI was first discussed that if it ever was made NCAA legal that Nike would be formidable like they are in the pro endorsement game. I suspect that particularly in MBB that's what we are seeing.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 6:12 pm
by greenyellow
So much for people thinking Altman had lost his touch.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 6:52 pm
by droop10
greenyellow wrote:So much for people thinking Altman had lost his touch.
I wouldn’t go that far. I suspect by loss #3 next year, they’ll be back.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 9:06 am
by karlhungis
greenyellow wrote:So much for people thinking Altman had lost his touch.
I mean, he didn't even make the tournament and got bounced in the NIT pretty quick. Recruiting all the talent in the world isn't going to matter if he doesn't get the wins.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 9:50 am
by dthomas=ddixon
GrandpaDuck wrote:
dthomas=ddixon wrote:Two of the top five players in the nation? Never would have dreamed we would recruit on this level.
I felt since NLI was first discussed that if it ever was made NCAA legal that Nike would be formidable like they are in the pro endorsement game. I suspect that particularly in MBB that's what we are seeing.
Agreed. Ware and Johnson turned down 6 figure deals to sign with Oregon. I doubt that happens without those numbers being matched by Oregon/Nike.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 10:59 am
by UOducksTK1
karlhungis wrote:
greenyellow wrote:So much for people thinking Altman had lost his touch.
I mean, he didn't even make the tournament and got bounced in the NIT pretty quick. Recruiting all the talent in the world isn't going to matter if he doesn't get the wins.
Personally I think the reason we didn’t make the tournament is cuz our team was mostly transfers and not high recruits that got developed on our team. 4 of our top 5 scorers were brand new transfers.

If you look at our our big tournament runs, they were littered with big time recruits and had a transfer or two in the main rotation.

So main issue is getting big recruits and getting them to stay and develop. Until that happens, it’s going to be harder for a guy like DA to make another elite 8/final 4 run.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 11:10 am
by karlhungis
UOducksTK1 wrote:
karlhungis wrote:
greenyellow wrote:So much for people thinking Altman had lost his touch.
I mean, he didn't even make the tournament and got bounced in the NIT pretty quick. Recruiting all the talent in the world isn't going to matter if he doesn't get the wins.
Personally I think the reason we didn’t make the tournament is cuz our team was mostly transfers and not high recruits that got developed on our team. 4 of our top 5 scorers were brand new transfers.

If you look at our our big tournament runs, they were littered with big time recruits and had a transfer or two in the main rotation.

So main issue is getting big recruits and getting them to stay and develop. Until that happens, it’s going to be harder for a guy like DA to make another elite 8/final 4 run.
I agree. It seems like there is a disconnect between the type of team that he is building and the type of team he needs to succeed.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 11:21 am
by UOducksTK1
Right^ and the transfer portal is making that harder than ever.

Thankfully, everyone has the same challenge but it’s making college basketball less fun to watch for sure.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 1:07 pm
by karlhungis
UOducksTK1 wrote:Right^ and the transfer portal is making that harder than ever.

Thankfully, everyone has the same challenge but it’s making college basketball less fun to watch for sure.
I feel like the next evolution of the NIL deals is going to basically put in no transfer clauses. That could possibly lead to more stability in the long run.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 2:06 pm
by Alan
karlhungis wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:Right^ and the transfer portal is making that harder than ever.

Thankfully, everyone has the same challenge but it’s making college basketball less fun to watch for sure.
I feel like the next evolution of the NIL deals is going to basically put in no transfer clauses. That could possibly lead to more stability in the long run.
I would love to see commitment by athletes post NIL. As it is now, no rules for athletes or boosters to follow. I hate one and done, Altman has shown he can not get one and done’s to jell.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 5:49 pm
by karlhungis
Alan wrote:
karlhungis wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:Right^ and the transfer portal is making that harder than ever.

Thankfully, everyone has the same challenge but it’s making college basketball less fun to watch for sure.
I feel like the next evolution of the NIL deals is going to basically put in no transfer clauses. That could possibly lead to more stability in the long run.
I would love to see commitment by athletes post NIL. As it is now, no rules for athletes or boosters to follow. I hate one and done, Altman has shown he can not get one and done’s to jell.
Seems like it will take a few boosters having a kid take the money and transfer to get them to agree on some guardrails.

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 8:40 pm
by woundedknees
As the 'old guard', i.e. guy like Coach K start to fade into the past, there may be an brief opportunity for coaches like DA to hit their stride, with the aid of NIL.

I have an extremely hard time swallowing (gagging/choking) that the main reason we so offten came in second to guys like coach K and other "big name" coaches was only the "chance to play for a winner or championship".

Re: Oregon leading for top PF in nation?

Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 4:28 pm
by buckmarkduck
karlhungis wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:Right^ and the transfer portal is making that harder than ever.

Thankfully, everyone has the same challenge but it’s making college basketball less fun to watch for sure.
I feel like the next evolution of the NIL deals is going to basically put in no transfer clauses. That could possibly lead to more stability in the long run.

The ncaa can always stop allowing players to be able to transfer and play right away.