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Agreed.bellsduck wrote:Good for them. I hope they win the lawsuit. I think they're playing this very well.
I mean, informal alliances work so well when millions of dollars are on the line.OSU and WSU overreacted with a lawsuit instead of just talking to the 10 schools.
Here's why they're doing this as I understand it. It isn't 10 schools, it's 8. Kliavakoff withdrew USC/UCLA's ability to vote so it was 10 schools voting on behalf of 12.DuckMastaFunk wrote: B. OSU and WSU are trying to act like the victims and having 10 schools voluntarily relinquish their rights to the PAC12 doesn't make you look like a victim, as opposed to fighting them in court and pretending they were trying to liquidate the PAC12's assets.
Did you read what their suit is about? A meeting was called by George Kliavkoff including all the former PAC-12 schools to discuss future governance of the conference. OSU and WSU are rightfully calling BS to that and the suit asks for a restraining order against that. If Kliavkoff had not gone around the board to call this meeting a suit wouldn't have been necessary but he did.DuckMastaFunk wrote:Since when is filing a lawsuit preferable over working out issues outside of court? Is there a single school that left that is claiming rights to the PAC12 assets?
Glad ole public broadcasting let us know the obvious.DuckzRule wrote:This article claims that Oregon's future non-conference schedules in the Big Ten will probably feature teams located near the state due to the fact all 4 Big Ten newcomers are going to travel A LOT!
https://www.opb.org/article/2023/09/12/ ... still-tbd/
Yes and the funny thing is the Olympic sports are the pride and joy of both athletic programs. Their claim to athletic excellence. Stanford in particular doesn't need the extra football money at the expense of what it is going to do to their outstanding women's sports programs in particular.Phalanx wrote:I like the idea of OSU and Wazoo trying to make a go of it, and that they have residual money to help make it happen. If they can get some defections from the Mountain West and preserve something resembling a conference schedule, I can't help thinking maybe they can lure a few teams back into the fold after they get tired of the travel schedule and the toll it will inevitably take on non-revenue sports. I'm not sure what kind of binding deal Stanford and Cal made, for instance, but one has to think they would wake up and realize how ridiculous their situation is.
The way I think it happens is that the Pac 2 will "absorb" the Mtn West in 2025. This way the Beavs/Cougs can take the massive windfall of $ next year and then split with the Mtn West schools in 2025 when it seems more feasible to make a new conference and I think that's when the Mtn West's TV deal is up for renewal. IIRC, while there are 2 years of Playoff Revenues to be paid out, there's 4-6 years worth of March Madness Revenues (at a lower rate) so I think its with that money that they can make all of those schools happy by getting an extra few million and a much better conference name.Phalanx wrote:I like the idea of OSU and Wazoo trying to make a go of it, and that they have residual money to help make it happen. If they can get some defections from the Mountain West and preserve something resembling a conference schedule, I can't help thinking maybe they can lure a few teams back into the fold after they get tired of the travel schedule and the toll it will inevitably take on non-revenue sports. I'm not sure what kind of binding deal Stanford and Cal made, for instance, but one has to think they would wake up and realize how ridiculous their situation is.
Is this conjecture, or did you see this somewhere? I like it. It could still be a pretty strong basketball conference too, so maybe Bill Walton would still be happy.Duck07 wrote: The way I think it happens is that the Pac 2 will "absorb" the Mtn West in 2025. This way the Beavs/Cougs can take the massive windfall of $ next year and then split with the Mtn West schools in 2025 when it seems more feasible to make a new conference and I think that's when the Mtn West's TV deal is up for renewal. IIRC, while there are 2 years of Playoff Revenues to be paid out, there's 4-6 years worth of March Madness Revenues (at a lower rate) so I think its with that money that they can make all of those schools happy by getting an extra few million and a much better conference name.
WSU/OSU will play each other twice next year, schedule whatever defections cause other games to open up and as many Mtn West games and just accept that 2024 will be a weird year.
