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Recognizing it’s only one game and I get the LA TV market and all, but choosing a team with a barrel of dead fish UCLA fan base that can’t compete on the field with Oregon is a bad look. And Utah beating SC, that is some bad PR. Essentially, when it’s all said and done, they have selected PAC 12 leftovers…

UofDuck wrote:Recognizing it’s only one game and I get the LA TV market and all, but choosing a team with a barrel of dead fish UCLA fan base that can’t compete on the field with Oregon is a bad look. And Utah beating SC, that is some bad PR. Essentially, when it’s all said and done, they have selected PAC 12 leftovers…

They don't care. They just wanted the TV market and the recruiting grounds. Both teams could've gone winless and they wouldn't care

squintsdd wrote:

UofDuck wrote:Recognizing it’s only one game and I get the LA TV market and all, but choosing a team with a barrel of dead fish UCLA fan base that can’t compete on the field with Oregon is a bad look. And Utah beating SC, that is some bad PR. Essentially, when it’s all said and done, they have selected PAC 12 leftovers…

They don't care. They just wanted the TV market and the recruiting grounds. Both teams could've gone winless and they wouldn't care

I suppose so, but it’s so much more fun saying goodbye to the LA schools with big “L’s” on they’re foreheads.


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Yeah sadly it’s never really been about winning. Ironically not even about brand as much (which surprises me a little). All about TV revenue at this point.

A combined league that includes UO, UW, UU, Baylor, Ok St, TCU, UH, Stanford and ASU. Would be competitive enough on the field and have Texas biggest markets, BayArea, Seattle, Portland and Phx. If the big won’t take us, which I still think they will, our next option is to combine forces and give them a run for their money.

^ Even if we just stay at a Pac10, or add like Fresno and San Diego St and just dominate the new Pac12, I'm actually fine with any option for us.

Look at Clemson this year. They aren't that great and neither is the ACC, yet they'll go to the playoff yet again. Oregon is / will be that in a weakened Pac 10/12.

UOducksTK1 wrote:Yeah sadly it’s never really been about winning. Ironically not even about brand as much (which surprises me a little). All about TV revenue at this point.

Also ironically is Oregon is more viewed than UCLA and USC. In this era with nationwide TV viewership feels like the Big Ten is just trying to help their top two teams, Ohio St and Michigan, get more recruiting exposure to the LA markets and their respect for USC and UCLA as threats are low.

OregonFan4Life wrote:

UOducksTK1 wrote:Yeah sadly it’s never really been about winning. Ironically not even about brand as much (which surprises me a little). All about TV revenue at this point.

Also ironically is Oregon is more viewed than UCLA and USC. In this era with nationwide TV viewership feels like the Big Ten is just trying to help their top two teams, Ohio St and Michigan, get more recruiting exposure to the LA markets and their respect for USC and UCLA as threats are low.

My understanding is that Fox was the catalyst for pushing the B1G to go after the LA schools.

StevensTechU wrote:

OregonFan4Life wrote:

UOducksTK1 wrote:Yeah sadly it’s never really been about winning. Ironically not even about brand as much (which surprises me a little). All about TV revenue at this point.

Also ironically is Oregon is more viewed than UCLA and USC. In this era with nationwide TV viewership feels like the Big Ten is just trying to help their top two teams, Ohio St and Michigan, get more recruiting exposure to the LA markets and their respect for USC and UCLA as threats are low.

My understanding is that Fox was the catalyst for pushing the B1G to go after the LA schools.

I wasn’t aware of that, feels like the LA market is overrated, 10+ years ago this makes sense, but in today’s sports where kids aren’t fans of the local teams as much it just doesn’t seem to make sense. People in LA won’t watch college football at 9:00 AM.

lukeyrid13 wrote:^ Even if we just stay at a Pac10, or add like Fresno and San Diego St and just dominate the new Pac12, I'm actually fine with any option for us.

Look at Clemson this year. They aren't that great and neither is the ACC, yet they'll go to the playoff yet again. Oregon is / will be that in a weakened Pac 10/12.

I agree in fact the ACC is more like the Mountain West. Adding two Mountain West teams in exchange for the LA teams won't hurt the Pac 12 that much and I wouldn't mind if Oregon was similar to Clemson.

OregonFan4Life wrote:The Big Ten is just trying to help their top two teams, Ohio St and Michigan, get more recruiting exposure to the LA markets and their respect for USC and UCLA as threats are low.

This^^^

I have been saying for a long time....that the BIG could care less if USC and UCLA are on an island.
1) Existing BIG teams only have to make 1 trip west per year, max
2) We all know what happens when West Coast NFL teams go East. They only win just over 40% of their games. I am guessing that percentage will be lower in college with non-professionals.
3) Open access to the LA recruiting grounds for the existing top programs. If Oregon can dominate LA, what are tOSU, Michigan, and Penn State going to do?
4) You just secured a huge pay raise for all your existing member schools.

Advantage tOSU, Michigan, and Penn State. I would be pressing to "no" vote on further expansion if I was any one of those teams.


Also, I know Oregon wants the money, but the BIG is ridiculously overrated as a conference. Half of the teams in the league are complete trash and outside of tOSU, there is not really another school that is a legit contender. Oregon is now 9-0 versus BIG teams (including USC and UCLA) since 2017, with wins over the leagues best teams in tOSU, MSU, Wisconsin, and USC.

Did you see that the over/under opened at 31.5 for the Iowa vs. Northwestern game? That is gross....just BARF.

I would rather have championship opportunities and keep our non-football/basketball athletes on the west coast over the possible payout of the Big-10. The CFP presidents declared 12-team playoff with automatic qualifying for each of the big-6 champions, making our path to the playoff clear as day if we remain with the Pacific conference. Screw the Big-10.

Hate to break it to everyone who think Oregon should stay, or will stay in the PAC. Money trumps all when it comes to these universities. If Oregon is offered by the B1G, and payout is large enough, I would fully expect Oregon to jump ship.

5$ wrote:I would rather have championship opportunities and keep our non-football/basketball athletes on the west coast over the possible payout of the Big-10. The CFP presidents declared 12-team playoff with automatic qualifying for each of the big-6 champions, making our path to the playoff clear as day if we remain with the Pacific conference. Screw the Big-10.

The problem you run into is that when Oregon is making significantly less than Big 10/SEC schools, they won't be able to keep up from a facilities standpoint, coaches salaries, etc. So, it'll be hard to keep any premier coaching staff around, as they would just get a much higher salary at other universities.

droop10 wrote:

5$ wrote:I would rather have championship opportunities and keep our non-football/basketball athletes on the west coast over the possible payout of the Big-10. The CFP presidents declared 12-team playoff with automatic qualifying for each of the big-6 champions, making our path to the playoff clear as day if we remain with the Pacific conference. Screw the Big-10.

The problem you run into is that when Oregon is making significantly less than Big 10/SEC schools, they won't be able to keep up from a facilities standpoint, coaches salaries, etc. So, it'll be hard to keep any premier coaching staff around, as they would just get a much higher salary at other universities.

This. I’d rather be a team that doesn’t make the playoff every year but when they do have a real chance at winning the national championship vs a team like Oklahoma that has made it so many consecutive years only to get destroyed in the first round.