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Choose
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:10 pm
by Quietduck
If you could choose one area or position to be dominant in the next 8 years which one would you choose?
For me, it would be a defensive line. A dominant defensive line covers up weak defensive backfields and if the other team can't score much a not-so-good offense can win games.
Re: Choose
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:24 pm
by Duck07
Probably have to go with QB due to its relevance to W:L
If the next 8 years see Top 5 nationally QB play it will redound elsewhere with the program.
Re: Choose
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:21 pm
by gogreen55
Duck07 wrote:Probably have to go with QB due to its relevance to W:L
If the next 8 years see Top 5 nationally QB play it will redound elsewhere with the program.
It is all connected. If you have dominant QB play, it means most everyone else on offense is doing their job well also. So yeah, QB is always the answer for these types of questions.
Re: Choose
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:53 pm
by UOducksTK1
DL, OL, or QB.
Kinda depends on how weak every other position group is.
Re: Choose
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:19 am
by alxtw
Overall: Head Coach
Only on the field: QB
Re: Choose
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 11:25 am
by OregonFan4Life
Following Georgia’s lead and the Tampa Bay team that won the SB, DLine with an emphasis on pass rush. Dominant pass rushers really ruin an offense.
Re: Choose
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:26 pm
by buckmarkduck
DL. A dominate DL wins titles, even with an average QB. See UGA
Re: Choose
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 3:30 am
by nogerO
Defense wins championships. Pressure, pressure, pressure! DL!
Re: Choose
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 10:25 am
by pezsez1
QB for sure, but almost feel like that's a given. Otherwise I'd say DL.
Re: Choose
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 10:34 am
by Quietduck
I have to say that I believe and average QB with a great dominate defensive line wins more games than a great QB with a sub par defensive line. Since we are talking domination perhaps my love a a great defense is coming through but I do remember when a single dominate defensive lineman crippled a lot of Chips game plan with some high end QB talent.
Re: Choose
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 3:57 pm
by gogreen55
buckmarkduck wrote:DL. A dominate DL wins titles, even with an average QB. See UGA
Stetson Bennnett was a Heisman finalist, which shows that your QB having great success is indicative of most everyone on offense doing their jobs well also. No other single position has this strong of a correlation.
Re: Choose
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 4:00 pm
by gogreen55
Quietduck wrote:I have to say that I believe and average QB with a great dominate defensive line wins more games than a great QB with a sub par defensive line. Since we are talking domination perhaps my love a a great defense is coming through but I do remember when a single dominate defensive lineman crippled a lot of Chips game plan with some high end QB talent.
You mean having good QB play means you might not go undefeated? Sure, if that is the point, then you can always point to individual games.
Re: Choose
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 7:37 pm
by buckmarkduck
gogreen55 wrote:buckmarkduck wrote:DL. A dominate DL wins titles, even with an average QB. See UGA
Stetson Bennnett was a Heisman finalist, which shows that your QB having great success is indicative of most everyone on offense doing their jobs well also. No other single position has this strong of a correlation.
Yeah, behind a bunch of studs on the OL, a future all pro TE and great WRs. Lots of average QBs have looked great surrounded by super teams. Bama win for decades with QBs that wouldn’t start at UO. I remember thinking Dorsey was really good at Miami also, turned out he just looked good because of everyone else around him.
Re: Choose
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:52 am
by Duck07
buckmarkduck wrote:
Yeah, behind a bunch of studs on the OL, a future all pro TE and great WRs. Lots of average QBs have looked great surrounded by super teams. Bama win for decades with QBs that wouldn’t start at UO. I remember thinking Dorsey was really good at Miami also, turned out he just looked good because of everyone else around him.
This is my issue with how people are answering this - you get 1 group to be elite and people branch that out elsewhere to other positions groups as if UGA and Bama ONLY won because of the DL and not because almost every unit was stacked.
If all I knew is that over the next 8 years we'd have Elite QB play, like multiple Heisman-candidates level Elite, I'm choosing that over having an Elite DL because of the likely W/L results from that alone. You rarely have those kind of QBs who have poor seasons even if they don't always win it all.
LSU strikes me as the team who fits this bill of having an elite DL and yet they only won their titles with two #1 NFL draft picks at QB. Same with that Newton guy.
Re: Choose
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:18 am
by buckmarkduck
Duck07 wrote:buckmarkduck wrote:
Yeah, behind a bunch of studs on the OL, a future all pro TE and great WRs. Lots of average QBs have looked great surrounded by super teams. Bama win for decades with QBs that wouldn’t start at UO. I remember thinking Dorsey was really good at Miami also, turned out he just looked good because of everyone else around him.
This is my issue with how people are answering this - you get 1 group to be elite and people branch that out elsewhere to other positions groups as if UGA and Bama ONLY won because of the DL and not because almost every unit was stacked.
If all I knew is that over the next 8 years we'd have Elite QB play, like multiple Heisman-candidates level Elite, I'm choosing that over having an Elite DL because of the likely W/L results from that alone. You rarely have those kind of QBs who have poor seasons even if they don't always win it all.
LSU strikes me as the team who fits this bill of having an elite DL and yet they only won their titles with two #1 NFL draft picks at QB. Same with that Newton guy.
LSU was elite at WR also, and has multiple starting IL on the nfl
Elite QBs don’t automatically win in college though. Mahomes TT team was so good Harral got fired. Allen Wyoming team made an average at best Duck team look like a juggernaut. Not discounting qb, but lots of all pro QBs college teams weren’t great. But it’s much harder to find dominant DLs whose teams went 7-5