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Pac-12 vs. Big 18: Strength of Schedule

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:30 pm
by StevensTechU
I've seen some messages around contemplating where Oregon will fall in the Big Ten pecking order, as well as some posts on here regarding the path to the playoff, and wanted to make it its own thread. Chime on in.

Presuming the Big Ten goes to a East/West divisional format, Oregon is looking at playing the following schools almost every year: washington, UCLA, USC, Minnesota, Northwestern, Iowa, Nebraska, and Wisconsin.

Roughly speaking, that's a change from washington, UCLA (semi), Stanford, Cal, Wazzu, Oregon State, Utah, Arizona.

In 2023, which group of schools is better? Minnesota or Oregon State? Wazzu or Wisconsin (WSU won in 2022 and they play in 2023 at Martin Stadium)? Stanford or Northwestern? Utah or Iowa?

The Big Ten West is clearly the crappier Big Ten division, but now will have Oregon and USC to go along with sometimes-very good schools like Wisconsin and Nebraska. If USC wasn't going with us, I'd say the Pac-12 has a slight edge of competitiveness, but if we play USC every year, I think our strength of schedule is going to increase a little bit.

Oregon and USC should run the division like Ohio State and Michigan run the east, with washington and Wisconsin being the western versions of Penn State and Michigan State. The idea that this is a huge uptick in competition is a slap in the face of the other Pac schools we've played, and I think just completely misinformed. The Pac has gotten worse over the last 10 years, but the Big Ten West desperately needs UofO and USC to have teams capable to playoff births and victories, not just 8-4 teams to fill a bowl spot.

Re: Pac-12 vs. Big 18: Strength of Schedule

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:51 pm
by StevensTechU
I just started listening to the On 3 podcast and when discussing whether Oregon's path to a national championship is easier or harder, one guy says immensely harder and that Oregon and washington are not on the level of Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State but instead on the level of Wisconsin and Iowa.

In-****ing-sane. Southeastern and eastern media is beyond stupid.

Re: Pac-12 vs. Big 18: Strength of Schedule

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:41 pm
by DuckzRule
Am I the only one who believes the four new additions will be competing to the likes of Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State?

Nobody realizes the the Big Ten's lower half is just...decent.

Re: Pac-12 vs. Big 18: Strength of Schedule

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:52 pm
by Everythingsducky
StevensTechU wrote:I just started listening to the On 3 podcast and when discussing whether Oregon's path to a national championship is easier or harder, one guy says immensely harder and that Oregon and washington are not on the level of Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State but instead on the level of Wisconsin and Iowa.

In-****ing-sane. Southeastern and eastern media is beyond stupid.
Agreed. Did this idiot not watch the Ducks kick Buckeye ass IN the Shoe two years ago??? The Ducks have recent Rose Bowl wins against the BIG, along with the OSU win. Will be happy to match up with ANY BIG school.

Re: Pac-12 vs. Big 18: Strength of Schedule

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:53 pm
by Duck07
josh pate has a good recruiting nugget that only osu has more blue chips than we do currently

Re: Pac-12 vs. Big 18: Strength of Schedule

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:59 pm
by StevensTechU
Everythingsducky wrote:
Agreed. Did this idiot not watch the Ducks kick Buckeye ass IN the Shoe two years ago???
In a down year.

Re: Pac-12 vs. Big 18: Strength of Schedule

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:20 pm
by BearlyBalanced
With Cristoballing' AB too.

Re: Pac-12 vs. Big 18: Strength of Schedule

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:42 pm
by buckmarkduck
DuckzRule wrote:Am I the only one who believes the four new additions will be competing to the likes of Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State?

Nobody realizes the the Big Ten's lower half is just...decent.

UCLA and UW will be middle to bottom. Neither recruits well enough to compete at a high level consistently. Chip isn’t Chip of old, and rumors already flying that Donte is not happy at UCLA. He might transfer.

Re: Pac-12 vs. Big 18: Strength of Schedule

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:52 pm
by lmduck
buckmarkduck wrote:
DuckzRule wrote:Am I the only one who believes the four new additions will be competing to the likes of Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State?

Nobody realizes the the Big Ten's lower half is just...decent.

UCLA and UW will be middle to bottom. Neither recruits well enough to compete at a high level consistently. Chip isn’t Chip of old, and rumors already flying that Donte is not happy at UCLA. He might transfer.
Interesting about Moore. What is he not happy about?


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Re: Pac-12 vs. Big 18: Strength of Schedule

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:06 am
by buckmarkduck
lmduck wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:
DuckzRule wrote:Am I the only one who believes the four new additions will be competing to the likes of Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State?

Nobody realizes the the Big Ten's lower half is just...decent.

UCLA and UW will be middle to bottom. Neither recruits well enough to compete at a high level consistently. Chip isn’t Chip of old, and rumors already flying that Donte is not happy at UCLA. He might transfer.
Interesting about Moore. What is he not happy about?


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Sounds like NIL not being paid, and Garbers is running the 1s. The ucla insider also said other stuff behind the scenes. I imagine if he doesn’t win the starting job he bounces.

Re: Pac-12 vs. Big 18: Strength of Schedule

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:29 am
by nogerO
Everythingsducky wrote:
StevensTechU wrote:I just started listening to the On 3 podcast and when discussing whether Oregon's path to a national championship is easier or harder, one guy says immensely harder and that Oregon and washington are not on the level of Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State but instead on the level of Wisconsin and Iowa.

In-****ing-sane. Southeastern and eastern media is beyond stupid.
Agreed. Did this idiot not watch the Ducks kick Buckeye ass IN the Shoe two years ago??? The Ducks have recent Rose Bowl wins against the BIG, along with the OSU win. Will be happy to match up with ANY BIG school.
Yeah it's unbearable to actually live here in southern Georgia and have to listen to their stupid SEC inbred opinions . Finebaum is particularly delusional...