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I just checked the Yahoo recruiting rankings and the Ducks are sitting at #8 with the opportunity to jump as high as #4, based on the current overall points.

Washington is sitting at #52.

I don't know much about Kalen DeBoer, but if they don't start ramping up their talent level they won't be good very much longer.

Deboer is a fantastic coach but they will take a massive step back next year, and probably for the next 3-4 years.

I said this in the game thread before the game, but even with the loss yesterday, I’d much rather be a Duck fan than a Husky fan. Lanning is building a bright future and the ducks will only get better, this year is pretty much it for the Huskies.

This is a very astute observation and a major worry among the sane and rational dawg fans. Pennix and those receivers are gone after this year and thus far DeBoer is not doing a good job restocking the shelves.

Many dawg fans openly say he is not a good recruiter.


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All that may be true, but I have a hard time believing CKDB players will often be out-coached or schemed.
He knows how to motivate players the right way and is an incredibly solid game coach who can get 137% from even marginal talent players.
Our current team, recruiting-rankings-wise, should have BLOWN them out the water.

Like it or not (and for the record, I EEEFFFFING HATE IT), the doogs really scored with that coaching hire and I really don't think he's concerned about not getting his players though their fans might be.

BearlyBalanced wrote:All that may be true, but I have a hard time believing CKDB players will often be out-coached or schemed.
He knows how to motivate players the right way and is an incredibly solid game coach who can get 137% from even marginal talent players.
Our current team, recruiting-rankings-wise, should have BLOWN them out the water.

Like it or not (and for the record, I EEEFFFFING HATE IT), the doogs really scored with that coaching hire and I really don't think he's concerned about not getting his players though their fans might be.

There is only so far motivation and scheme can take you, and we saw that in last year’s national championship.

I do think Oregon overall had a slight talent advantage due to the talent on defense yesterday, but not enough that the ducks should’ve beaten them soundly. Call my crazy but if Penix and Bo switched teams Ducks would’ve won by 17+. Lanning is doing a great job of building a program and DaBoer is just trying a quick fix, and he got lucky to have Penix and these WR’s and you don’t strike gold twice like that. Huskies will be struggling to be above mediocre the next few years meanwhile Oregon will just get better. In some ways Breland was a bigger win cause he will be an elite DLineman for Oregon in the future, and I have heard Oregon may flip Justin Williams and if they land him and Elijah Rushing ducks have arguably the best defensive recruiting class in the nation, Lanning is playing the long term game at Oregon more than DaBoer is at Washington.

There is also a very good chance DeBoer loses Grubb to a HC job.

Totally agree DeBoer is a very good coach and as I said UW fans have two major fears, his recruiting and lack thereof AND many UW insiders believe he has his sights set on the NFL. Just stuff that is floating out there.


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dthomas=ddixon wrote:Deboer is a fantastic coach but they will take a massive step back next year, and probably for the next 3-4 years.

Honestly all he has really been able to recruit was Penix who he knew from IU. Without that they probably are a 7 win team each year. I thought it was funny, they had Canzano on KJR, and he pointed out that after this year UO is leaving UW in the dustbin talent acquisition. And the host tried to poopoo it, but you could tell he didn’t like that answer at all.

buckmarkduck wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote:Deboer is a fantastic coach but they will take a massive step back next year, and probably for the next 3-4 years.

Honestly all he has really been able to recruit was Penix who he knew from IU. Without that they probably are a 7 win team each year. I thought it was funny, they had Canzano on KJR, and he pointed out that after this year UO is leaving UW in the dustbin talent acquisition. And the host tried to poopoo it, but you could tell he didn’t like that answer at all.

My guess is that ‘host’ is/was the ridiculously obnoxious Husky honk, Dave ‘Softy’ Mahler


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lmduck wrote:

buckmarkduck wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote:Deboer is a fantastic coach but they will take a massive step back next year, and probably for the next 3-4 years.

Honestly all he has really been able to recruit was Penix who he knew from IU. Without that they probably are a 7 win team each year. I thought it was funny, they had Canzano on KJR, and he pointed out that after this year UO is leaving UW in the dustbin talent acquisition. And the host tried to poopoo it, but you could tell he didn’t like that answer at all.

My guess is that ‘host’ is/was the ridiculously obnoxious Husky honk, Dave ‘Softy’ Mahler


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No I think it was this idiot Chuck from Illinois who does the morning stuff, with a duck Bucky. He spent all week talking trash about UO, and spewing all kinds of crap about how UW offense is equal to the rams greatest show on turf. He’s also delusional when it comes to the Mariners, saying they willl win the World Series next year.

Softy actually said he didn’t think this game mattered as much, because he expected both teams to play again in Vegas and that will matter much more. But he still wanted to win this game

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lmduck wrote:

buckmarkduck wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote:Deboer is a fantastic coach but they will take a massive step back next year, and probably for the next 3-4 years.

Honestly all he has really been able to recruit was Penix who he knew from IU. Without that they probably are a 7 win team each year. I thought it was funny, they had Canzano on KJR, and he pointed out that after this year UO is leaving UW in the dustbin talent acquisition. And the host tried to poopoo it, but you could tell he didn’t like that answer at all.

My guess is that ‘host’ is/was the ridiculously obnoxious Husky honk, Dave ‘Softy’ Mahler


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No I think it was this idiot Chuck from Illinois who does the morning stuff, with a duck Bucky. He spent all week talking trash about UO, and spewing all kinds of crap about how UW offense is equal to the rams greatest show on turf. He’s also delusional when it comes to the Mariners, saying they willl win the World Series next year.

Softy actually said he didn’t think this game mattered as much, because he expected both teams to play again in Vegas and that will matter much more. But he still wanted to win this game

Interesting. Thanks for the clarification. I figured Softy who is such a husky fan boy it’s ridiculous, that it might have been him.

No doubt Pennix and the UW receivers are good but not quite ready to anoint them the second coming of the Rams.


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With the transfer portal as impactful as it is, traditional recruiting just isn't as important as it once was. I wouldn't write UW off quite yet.

DmoneyDuck wrote:With the transfer portal as impactful as it is, traditional recruiting just isn't as important as it once was. I wouldn't write UW off quite yet.

This is false. The portal can only get you so far, just look at UCLA, ASU and CU. You have to recruit at a high level also.

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DmoneyDuck wrote:With the transfer portal as impactful as it is, traditional recruiting just isn't as important as it once was. I wouldn't write UW off quite yet.

This is false. The portal can only get you so far, just look at UCLA, ASU and CU. You have to recruit at a high level also.

And teams that suck at recruiting suck in the portal for the same reason: NIL, or lack there of.

There’s a reason we win every recruiting battle against UW. Like literally steal their lunch money whenever we feel like it.

BearlyBalanced wrote:All that may be true, but I have a hard time believing CKDB players will often be out-coached or schemed.
He knows how to motivate players the right way and is an incredibly solid game coach who can get 137% from even marginal talent players.
Our current team, recruiting-rankings-wise, should have BLOWN them out the water.

Like it or not (and for the record, I EEEFFFFING HATE IT), the doogs really scored with that coaching hire and I really don't think he's concerned about not getting his players though their fans might be.

Lanning's team lost by a last-second missed field goal on the road in front of 71k opposing fans. Say what you want to say about them as recruits, but uw has NFL guys at QB, 3-4 at WR, OT, 2 DE, and ILB. It's washington's most talented team since their playoff team, which is why they've won handily in every game but this one, and why they beat Texas solidly in their bowl game last year.

Literally nobody would "blow them out of the water." Uw would probably be favored against Georgia at home.

3 point loss. On the road.