The Other Guys - Thanksgiving (Week 14)
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The Other Guys - Thanksgiving (Week 14)
Even at this point, we still don't know what the playoff field will be. Lots of games to pay attention to. [Rankings in OP are AP Poll]
Turkey Day, 11/28
Memphis @ #20 Tulane - If Boise loses to Oregon State or UNLV, Tulane's waiting in the wings to make the playoff.
11/29
Oregon State @ #11 Boise St - Boise hasn't looked impressive and Oregon State is coming off their biggest win of the season. There's a chance it's close, but there's a chance Ashton Jeanty runs for 350 yards (no chance it's an OSU blowout).
Georgia Tech @ #6 Georgia - I think the talent and team speed is still just too wide a gap, but you never know.
Nebraska @ Iowa - Why not.
Saturday, 11/30
Michigan vs. #2 Ohio State - Why not.
#7 Tennessee @ Vanderbilt - Could you imagine Tennessee losing and the southeastern conference only getting 2 schools in? They'd almost certainly take their ball and go home.
Louisville vs. Kentucky - I have ties to this one so I'll tune in and root for Shough.
#16 South Carolina vs. #12 Clemson - Playoff implications, though I probably won't turn it on because I don't care to see these teams play.
#8 Miami @ Syracuse - Syracuse is dangerous, Miami is wildly volatile, and strange things happen in the dome.
#5 Notre Dame @ USC - While I think USC is very mediocre, if they win, it puts Notre Dame on the bubble.
Auburn @ #13 Alabama - My intrigue is simply wanting to know what happens to DeBoer by the Alabama fanbase if they lose.
Purdue @ #10 Indiana - Don't blow it, Indiana.
#3 Texas @ #20 Texas A&M - A&M is very mediocre (I'd take USC at home over A&M in a hypothetical matchup), but it'll be a tough environment, and the game as playoff implicaitons.
Turkey Day, 11/28
Memphis @ #20 Tulane - If Boise loses to Oregon State or UNLV, Tulane's waiting in the wings to make the playoff.
11/29
Oregon State @ #11 Boise St - Boise hasn't looked impressive and Oregon State is coming off their biggest win of the season. There's a chance it's close, but there's a chance Ashton Jeanty runs for 350 yards (no chance it's an OSU blowout).
Georgia Tech @ #6 Georgia - I think the talent and team speed is still just too wide a gap, but you never know.
Nebraska @ Iowa - Why not.
Saturday, 11/30
Michigan vs. #2 Ohio State - Why not.
#7 Tennessee @ Vanderbilt - Could you imagine Tennessee losing and the southeastern conference only getting 2 schools in? They'd almost certainly take their ball and go home.
Louisville vs. Kentucky - I have ties to this one so I'll tune in and root for Shough.
#16 South Carolina vs. #12 Clemson - Playoff implications, though I probably won't turn it on because I don't care to see these teams play.
#8 Miami @ Syracuse - Syracuse is dangerous, Miami is wildly volatile, and strange things happen in the dome.
#5 Notre Dame @ USC - While I think USC is very mediocre, if they win, it puts Notre Dame on the bubble.
Auburn @ #13 Alabama - My intrigue is simply wanting to know what happens to DeBoer by the Alabama fanbase if they lose.
Purdue @ #10 Indiana - Don't blow it, Indiana.
#3 Texas @ #20 Texas A&M - A&M is very mediocre (I'd take USC at home over A&M in a hypothetical matchup), but it'll be a tough environment, and the game as playoff implicaitons.
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If Notre Dame loses they would have two of the worst losses of the 2 loss teams.
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The wolverines have a *chance* on the strength of their DL vs an injured OL of the buckeyes + Colston Loveland having a day.
I'd love to see Jeanty have a 300+ day as he probably needs it to overtake Travis Hunter + another Buff loss.
In the chance that we lose the B1G CG, I think UT winning out would provide us an opportunity to end up on opposite halves of the bracket with OSU should the longhorns get the #1 spot. I think it'd also set us up to face the SEC in Autzen which would be fun seeing as how Bama just crapped the bed by going as far west as Norman!
I'd love to see Jeanty have a 300+ day as he probably needs it to overtake Travis Hunter + another Buff loss.
In the chance that we lose the B1G CG, I think UT winning out would provide us an opportunity to end up on opposite halves of the bracket with OSU should the longhorns get the #1 spot. I think it'd also set us up to face the SEC in Autzen which would be fun seeing as how Bama just crapped the bed by going as far west as Norman!
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Looks like Will Johnson won’t play again so that definitely decreases’s Michigan’s chances of pulling off the huge upset, but their DLine alone could make this a much closer game than expected. Even if Michigan doesn’t win hopefully they take Ohio State to the wire and get some good hits on Howard.
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Off topic, but I heard that if Alabama had beaten Oklahoma, DeBoer would be tied for the most wins for a new coach in their first season there. They need to give the man a chance. Also, this isn't the same landscape that Coaches Saban and Bryant ruled in. They may have to take a step back from their expectations every year.StevensTechU wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:35 am Even at this point, we still don't know what the playoff field will be. Lots of games to pay attention to. [Rankings in OP are AP Poll]
Turkey Day, 11/28
Memphis @ #20 Tulane - If Boise loses to Oregon State or UNLV, Tulane's waiting in the wings to make the playoff.
11/29
Oregon State @ #11 Boise St - Boise hasn't looked impressive and Oregon State is coming off their biggest win of the season. There's a chance it's close, but there's a chance Ashton Jeanty runs for 350 yards (no chance it's an OSU blowout).
Georgia Tech @ #6 Georgia - I think the talent and team speed is still just too wide a gap, but you never know.
Nebraska @ Iowa - Why not.
Saturday, 11/30
Michigan vs. #2 Ohio State - Why not.
#7 Tennessee @ Vanderbilt - Could you imagine Tennessee losing and the southeastern conference only getting 2 schools in? They'd almost certainly take their ball and go home.
Louisville vs. Kentucky - I have ties to this one so I'll tune in and root for Shough.
#16 South Carolina vs. #12 Clemson - Playoff implications, though I probably won't turn it on because I don't care to see these teams play.
#8 Miami @ Syracuse - Syracuse is dangerous, Miami is wildly volatile, and strange things happen in the dome.
#5 Notre Dame @ USC - While I think USC is very mediocre, if they win, it puts Notre Dame on the bubble.
Auburn @ #13 Alabama - My intrigue is simply wanting to know what happens to DeBoer by the Alabama fanbase if they lose.
Purdue @ #10 Indiana - Don't blow it, Indiana.
#3 Texas @ #20 Texas A&M - A&M is very mediocre (I'd take USC at home over A&M in a hypothetical matchup), but it'll be a tough environment, and the game as playoff implicaitons.
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Bama may actually need to throw more cash out for NIL, instead of relying on their history. Yep, totally different landscape with NIL (Tho, Bama certainly paid players in the past), and social media have played a part. Different world. But I’m not going to hope a former Fuskie succeeds in anything. FIRE THE MAN ALREADY!SuperDuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:22 pmOff topic, but I heard that if Alabama had beaten Oklahoma, DeBoer would be tied for the most wins for a new coach in their first season there. They need to give the man a chance. Also, this isn't the same landscape that Coaches Saban and Bryant ruled in. They may have to take a step back from their expectations every year.StevensTechU wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:35 am Even at this point, we still don't know what the playoff field will be. Lots of games to pay attention to. [Rankings in OP are AP Poll]
Turkey Day, 11/28
Memphis @ #20 Tulane - If Boise loses to Oregon State or UNLV, Tulane's waiting in the wings to make the playoff.
11/29
Oregon State @ #11 Boise St - Boise hasn't looked impressive and Oregon State is coming off their biggest win of the season. There's a chance it's close, but there's a chance Ashton Jeanty runs for 350 yards (no chance it's an OSU blowout).
Georgia Tech @ #6 Georgia - I think the talent and team speed is still just too wide a gap, but you never know.
Nebraska @ Iowa - Why not.
Saturday, 11/30
Michigan vs. #2 Ohio State - Why not.
#7 Tennessee @ Vanderbilt - Could you imagine Tennessee losing and the southeastern conference only getting 2 schools in? They'd almost certainly take their ball and go home.
Louisville vs. Kentucky - I have ties to this one so I'll tune in and root for Shough.
#16 South Carolina vs. #12 Clemson - Playoff implications, though I probably won't turn it on because I don't care to see these teams play.
#8 Miami @ Syracuse - Syracuse is dangerous, Miami is wildly volatile, and strange things happen in the dome.
#5 Notre Dame @ USC - While I think USC is very mediocre, if they win, it puts Notre Dame on the bubble.
Auburn @ #13 Alabama - My intrigue is simply wanting to know what happens to DeBoer by the Alabama fanbase if they lose.
Purdue @ #10 Indiana - Don't blow it, Indiana.
#3 Texas @ #20 Texas A&M - A&M is very mediocre (I'd take USC at home over A&M in a hypothetical matchup), but it'll be a tough environment, and the game as playoff implicaitons.
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If Ryan Grubb or Kalen DeBoer get fired and Will Stein takes a HC job, are you telling me you wouldn't like either one of them as OC?Everythingsducky wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:53 pm
Bama may actually need to throw more cash out for NIL, instead of relying on their history. Yep, totally different landscape with NIL (Tho, Bama certainly paid players in the past), and social media have played a part. Different world. But I’m not going to hope a former Fuskie succeeds in anything. FIRE THE MAN ALREADY!
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Both would be short term, one year at best rentals. Eh, unless you were preseason top four going in, I’d look for a younger up and comer that may stay a bit. And, I was being satirical.Duck07 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:27 pmIf Ryan Grubb or Kalen DeBoer get fired and Will Stein takes a HC job, are you telling me you wouldn't like either one of them as OC?Everythingsducky wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:53 pm
Bama may actually need to throw more cash out for NIL, instead of relying on their history. Yep, totally different landscape with NIL (Tho, Bama certainly paid players in the past), and social media have played a part. Different world. But I’m not going to hope a former Fuskie succeeds in anything. FIRE THE MAN ALREADY!
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So let's try to do some back of the hand math for the possible playoff scenarios because this notion that Oregon at #1 plays the UT/UGA winner ignores a few things like the SEC CG so UGA is either in as Champs, or with 3 losses will be the 10/11 seed.
Of the Top 16 teams, a few are on upset alert but I'd really only say that Texas/Tamu, Miami/Syracuse, SMU/Cal and Clemson/S. Carolina (loser definitely out) are the toss-up games so let's just assume all the favorites win, which would mean Clemson may jump Boise in the rankings, but still end up behind the Broncos in the seedings due to their G5 status.
It also seems clear that we can essentially put the Big 12 champ at #12 as I don't know if even ASU getting to 11-2 and Big 12 Champs would put them any higher than #12.
This would set-up a Conf CG with
B1G: Oregon vs Ohio State (Winner to #1, Loser to #5)
SEC: UGA vs Texas (UGA already won by 15 in Austin - Bulldogs win SEC)
ACC: SMU vs Miami (This is where things get interesting)
Big 12: Seems like it doesn't matter, Big 12 Champ is #12
#1 Oregon 13-0
#2 Miami 12-1
#3 UGA 11-2
#4 Boise St 11-1
#5 Ohio State 11-2
#12 Arizona State 11-2
Winner plays #4 Boise St in Fiesta Bowl
#8 Texas 11-2
#9 Tennessee 10-2
Winner plays #1 Oregon in Rose Bowl
#6 Penn State 11-1
#11 Clemson 10-2
Winner plays #3 Georgia in Sugar Bowl
#7 Notre Dame 11-1
#10 Indiana 11-1
Winner plays #2 Miami in Peach Bowl (I might have the Peach/Sugar swapped with the conf connection)
Of the Top 16 teams, a few are on upset alert but I'd really only say that Texas/Tamu, Miami/Syracuse, SMU/Cal and Clemson/S. Carolina (loser definitely out) are the toss-up games so let's just assume all the favorites win, which would mean Clemson may jump Boise in the rankings, but still end up behind the Broncos in the seedings due to their G5 status.
It also seems clear that we can essentially put the Big 12 champ at #12 as I don't know if even ASU getting to 11-2 and Big 12 Champs would put them any higher than #12.
This would set-up a Conf CG with
B1G: Oregon vs Ohio State (Winner to #1, Loser to #5)
SEC: UGA vs Texas (UGA already won by 15 in Austin - Bulldogs win SEC)
ACC: SMU vs Miami (This is where things get interesting)
Big 12: Seems like it doesn't matter, Big 12 Champ is #12
#1 Oregon 13-0
#2 Miami 12-1
#3 UGA 11-2
#4 Boise St 11-1
#5 Ohio State 11-2
#12 Arizona State 11-2
Winner plays #4 Boise St in Fiesta Bowl
#8 Texas 11-2
#9 Tennessee 10-2
Winner plays #1 Oregon in Rose Bowl
#6 Penn State 11-1
#11 Clemson 10-2
Winner plays #3 Georgia in Sugar Bowl
#7 Notre Dame 11-1
#10 Indiana 11-1
Winner plays #2 Miami in Peach Bowl (I might have the Peach/Sugar swapped with the conf connection)
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Re: The Other Guys - Thanksgiving (Week 14)
If this is the way it goes down, will be interesting to see if they do in fact put Clemson in above SMU. Clemson will sit out the ACC CG, while SMU picks up it's second loss IN the CG, which the committee has said they will give credit for getting to the CG. Clearly, if they adhere to this, SMU should be in over Clemson. I'm also curious what happens if Georgia loses the rematch with Texas in a blowout...will they still try to put a 3-loss Georgia team in? Also, if the BIG CG results in a 20+ point win either way, does the loser keep the #5 spot or fall further?
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Re: The Other Guys - Thanksgiving (Week 14)
Wondering who I'd like Oregon to avoid, and really there are a lot of "dangerous" teams but not much in terms of great teams. Catch Miami, Georgia, etc. on their best day, and it's going to be tough to get a win. Catch them on their average day? Oregon wins by at least a touchdown. I think the only teams I'm "comfortable" with Oregon drawing are Tennessee, Boise St, and whatever teams come out of the Big 12 and ACC save for Miami.
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I’m not convinced Ohio State automatically gets the 5 seed if Oregon wins the B1G championship. I could see them putting Penn St and Notre Dame at 5 and 6 and dropping Ohio State to 7.
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I just don't want to face a 3-loss SEC team. While SEC is down, those SEC teams are loaded with talent and if a team like Bama plays to their potential, it could spell trouble.
Plus we'd never hear the last of a first round loss to a down SEC team.
Plus we'd never hear the last of a first round loss to a down SEC team.
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Only 2 losses to #1 and a head to head win and being in the CG. Any of those 3 put OhSU over PSU. Notre Dame has a horrible loss and nowhere near the quality wins OSU has (PSU and IU), they don't jump them either.OregonFan4Life wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 12:11 pm I’m not convinced Ohio State automatically gets the 5 seed if Oregon wins the B1G championship. I could see them putting Penn St and Notre Dame at 5 and 6 and dropping Ohio State to 7.