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#10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:53 pm
by UOducksTK1
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Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:13 pm
by GrandpaDuck
Hoosiers!

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:57 pm
by rsbgduck
Go Hoosiers,
Mainly because my disdain for ND is equal to USuCk and the Fuskies. Do I think they can win? Absolutely but they can’t get behind and have to keep ND off schedule so ND can’t lean on them with the rushing game to wear them down. Indiana doesn’t have the depth with the front seven. The 1st team can compete but there is a noticeable talent difference between them and the 2’s. A couple turnovers would be great, something like a fumble recovery on the ND 35 and a pick/4th down stop in the red zone.

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 6:53 am
by nogerO
Neutered Lame walks on the hosers in this one.

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:43 am
by UOducksTK1
Won’t most America be rooting for Indiana in this one?

Hey if N. Illinois can do it, the Hoosiers can too!

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:16 am
by Zyme
I trust neither of these teams. Both played a lightweight schedule

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 8:03 am
by Duck07
Go B1G!
Forecast calls for 32 at kickoff and chance of 1/4" of snow to fall during the game.

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 8:49 am
by gogreen55
UOducksTK1 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:43 am Won’t most America be rooting for Indiana in this one?

Hey if N. Illinois can do it, the Hoosiers can too!

I will certainly be rooting for Indiana, although it didn't seem to help much when I rooted for them against Ohio State. :?

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:00 am
by Greenblood
Would be hard for me to not root for almost anyone v. ND. But I will admit there's a part of me that wonders if Indiana's place in the CFP is questionable
(https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 747488007/, though I certainly don't agree with everything stated in this piece). But I guess the Hoosiers can prove they belong tonight. And their one loss is actually vastly better than ND's one loss.

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:22 am
by Duck07
Greenblood wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:00 am Would be hard for me to not root for almost anyone v. ND. But I will admit there's a part of me that wonders if Indiana's place in the CFP is questionable
(https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 747488007/, though I certainly don't agree with everything stated in this piece). But I guess the Hoosiers can prove they belong tonight. And their one loss is actually vastly better than ND's one loss.
When the primary argument is an Ole Miss/SEC team that played 1 fewer Conference game, the argument becomes null and void to me because all of a sudden the OOC schedules look absolutely the same to me and now the argument becomes a team wtih 1 conf loss vs 3. Which isn't to say that you can't rag on IU's schedule, but these aren't the teams to do it with.

For example we could say Ole Miss had lost to 11-1 UGA but defeated 3-7 Kentucky, 7-5 LSU and 6-6 Florida to finish 11-1 instead of the opposite results. You would ask who the big win was against in that schedule (much like IU), but the only loss being to 11-1 UGA would make you say that team is in a 12-team playoff.

Frankly its a completely biased argument to suggest that 11-1 Indiana is less deserving than 9-3 Ole Miss and the more you break it down the dumber it gets to me. Had Ole Miss scheduled 2/4 quality OOC games instead of 0/4 you would start the basis of the argument for P4 teams with 2 losses and why teams should schedule quality OOC games in the Playoff era. Going on the road to 4-8 Wake Forest with 2 G5 home games and 1 FCS home game don't give you any kind of validity as a 2 or 3 loss team.

Saying things like "so its better to have lost to UGA?" only reinforces the fact that yes, losing 3 games to marginal teams doesn't make the case for making it into the playoff.

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:43 pm
by Greenblood
Duck07 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:22 am
Greenblood wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:00 am Would be hard for me to not root for almost anyone v. ND. But I will admit there's a part of me that wonders if Indiana's place in the CFP is questionable
(https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 747488007/, though I certainly don't agree with everything stated in this piece). But I guess the Hoosiers can prove they belong tonight. And their one loss is actually vastly better than ND's one loss.
When the primary argument is an Ole Miss/SEC team that played 1 fewer Conference game, the argument becomes null and void to me because all of a sudden the OOC schedules look absolutely the same to me and now the argument becomes a team wtih 1 conf loss vs 3. Which isn't to say that you can't rag on IU's schedule, but these aren't the teams to do it with.

For example we could say Ole Miss had lost to 11-1 UGA but defeated 3-7 Kentucky, 7-5 LSU and 6-6 Florida to finish 11-1 instead of the opposite results. You would ask who the big win was against in that schedule (much like IU), but the only loss being to 11-1 UGA would make you say that team is in a 12-team playoff.

Frankly its a completely biased argument to suggest that 11-1 Indiana is less deserving than 9-3 Ole Miss and the more you break it down the dumber it gets to me. Had Ole Miss scheduled 2/4 quality OOC games instead of 0/4 you would start the basis of the argument for P4 teams with 2 losses and why teams should schedule quality OOC games in the Playoff era. Going on the road to 4-8 Wake Forest with 2 G5 home games and 1 FCS home game don't give you any kind of validity as a 2 or 3 loss team.

Saying things like "so its better to have lost to UGA?" only reinforces the fact that yes, losing 3 games to marginal teams doesn't make the case for making it into the playoff.
Thanks, great points. Maybe what was most notable to me is that I hadn't realized just how weak Indiana's schedule was (through no fault of its own, obviously).

The writer (Matt Hayes)'s comment that the SEC is "far and away the best conference in college football," made him sound like a typical SEC apologist. Would certainly be nice to see Indiana advance and the SEC teams fail (notwithstanding my slight desire to see the Vols win tomorrow).

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:52 pm
by StevensTechU
Greenblood wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:43 pm The writer (Matt Hayes)'s comment that the SEC is "far and away the best conference in college football," made him sound like a typical SEC apologist. Would certainly be nice to see Indiana advance and the SEC teams fail (notwithstanding my slight desire to see the Vols win tomorrow).
I have a hard time seeing Georgia win 3 games given their limitations, even before their QB went down. Same with Tennessee. I think the It Means More Because We Don't Have Anything Else conference fans really have all their hopes on Texas. But boy, I'd love to have 2 years in a row where there isn't even a team from their conference in the championship game.

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 6:31 pm
by StevensTechU
Indiana's lack of talent on the offensive line is still apparent. Not blowing assignments, though, like they did against Ohio State.

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:01 pm
by OregonFan4Life
I can’t tell if Notre Dame is really good or if Indiana isn’t as good as people thought, or both. But Notre Dame is absolutely dominating the battle at the LOS.

Re: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (Friday 5 PM, ABC)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:05 pm
by Duck07
OregonFan4Life wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:01 pm I can’t tell if Notre Dame is really good or if Indiana isn’t as good as people thought, or both. But Notre Dame is absolutely dominating the battle at the LOS.
Notre Dame is respectable but its largely on IU right now.