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Big get for them, hopefully that steers the DEs we're both after more in our direction.

Cal is a major player for both King and Owa so this should be good news

This sucks, Chris Martin is a beast. Cal is kind of down right now, and the last thing we need is for them to pick up steam in recruiting.

But like steeltown said, this should give us better odds with Gabe and Owa.

Big recruits going there doesn't really bother me. Isn't that team full of 'em every year? & what have they ever accomplished? Trademarking the fade? They don't worry me. This is great news for us though. Now we have a decent chance to land both Gabe & Owa. That would be a dream come true.

dthomas=ddixon wrote:Big recruits going there doesn't really bother me. Isn't that team full of 'em every year? & what have they ever accomplished? Trademarking the fade? They don't worry me. This is great news for us though. Now we have a decent chance to land both Gabe & Owa. That would be a dream come true.

You remember we are 2-3 against Cal the past 5 years, right?

maxduck wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote:Big recruits going there doesn't really bother me. Isn't that team full of 'em every year? & what have they ever accomplished? Trademarking the fade? They don't worry me. This is great news for us though. Now we have a decent chance to land both Gabe & Owa. That would be a dream come true.

You remember we are 2-3 against Cal the past 5 years, right?

True, but at least two of those W's were real flukey. Could be 5-0 or 0-5....

2 players changed a couple of those losses.

Keith Allen and Cameron Colvin.

maxduck wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote:Big recruits going there doesn't really bother me. Isn't that team full of 'em every year? & what have they ever accomplished? Trademarking the fade? They don't worry me. This is great news for us though. Now we have a decent chance to land both Gabe & Owa. That would be a dream come true.

You remember we are 2-3 against Cal the past 5 years, right?

Of those years how many times has Cal finished above us in conference?

They don't worry me.

bigsugarduck wrote:

maxduck wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote:Big recruits going there doesn't really bother me. Isn't that team full of 'em every year? & what have they ever accomplished? Trademarking the fade? They don't worry me. This is great news for us though. Now we have a decent chance to land both Gabe & Owa. That would be a dream come true.

You remember we are 2-3 against Cal the past 5 years, right?

True, but at least two of those W's were real flukey. Could be 5-0 or 0-5....

So you mean the type of game where a blue chip athlete, maybe a 5* defensive end, could be the difference between a win or loss?

Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I see Cal as a formidable opponent, both on the recruiting trail and the field.

CAL makes me confidently nervous. If that makes sense? I'm pretty sure we could and should beat them most year's but, they always seam to have some kind of X-factor that makes me nervous most year's. i.e. Deshawn Jackson or Javad Best.

maxduck wrote: So you mean the type of game where a blue chip athlete, maybe a 5* defensive end, could be the difference between a win or loss?

Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I see Cal as a formidable opponent, both on the recruiting trail and the field.

Thats a good point.

I will say I'm more confident in our coaching top to bottom than Cal. Oregon is the second most successful program in the pac10 due to top 2-3 coaching and top 5-6 talent on a yearly basis. I'm not sold at all on Cal's rotating door of mediocre coordinators and Tedford's inability to snag top position coaches. Case in point, Tosh Lopoi (spelling?) thier D-line coach.

I've said this before, but the dude has very little experience coaching and is only in his mid 20's. He was a good player for Cal a few years back, but that does not mean you can or should coach. It would be like us hiring Rashad Bauman as our new Secondary coach if Neal left. Love Rashad but no way does he deserve to be a position coach at a top 20 program (yet).

Or a Cal DB named Marcus Ezeff, who admitted he was playing harder on that play after getting burned earler?

How about Oklahoma's LB Clint Ingram intercepting Brady Leaf late in the 2005 Holiday? Ingram admitted he was out of position for the D called on that play.

Sometimes game changing plays are just great players being in the right place at the right time, regardless of star ratings.

woundedknees wrote:Or a Cal DB named Marcus Ezeff, who admittted he was playing harder on that play after getting burned earler?

How about Oklahoma's LB Clint Ingram intercepting Brady Leaf late in the 2005 Holiday? Ingram admitted he was out of position for the D called on that play.

Sometimes game changing plays are just great players being in the right place at the right time, regardless of star ratings.

Grrrrrrr, I haven't heard that dreaded name for a while. EZEFF, so close yet so far!!!

I know what you mean, Brich... There is a fire in my belly just thinking about that play.

bigsugarduck wrote:

maxduck wrote: So you mean the type of game where a blue chip athlete, maybe a 5* defensive end, could be the difference between a win or loss?

Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I see Cal as a formidable opponent, both on the recruiting trail and the field.

Thats a good point.

I will say I'm more confident in our coaching top to bottom than Cal. Oregon is the second most successful program in the pac10 due to top 2-3 coaching and top 5-6 talent on a yearly basis. I'm not sold at all on Cal's rotating door of mediocre coordinators and Tedford's inability to snag top position coaches. Case in point, Tosh Lopoi (spelling?) thier D-line coach.

I've said this before, but the dude has very little experience coaching and is only in his mid 20's. He was a good player for Cal a few years back, but that does not mean you can or should coach. It would be like us hiring Rashad Bauman as our new Secondary coach if Neal left. Love Rashad but no way does he deserve to be a position coach at a top 20 program (yet).

The Cal offensive coordinator is the position that is lacking. I don't understand how Jeff Tedford keeps getting duds to run the offense, and no production from the QB position.