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Trust the coaches

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:03 pm
by maxduck
A link to eDuck and a listing of the Ducks starting lineup and the recruiting stars when they signed. Lots of 4 star guy behind 2 star guys.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=128&f=1423&t=5309026

Re: Trust the coaches

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:03 pm
by hines
maxduck wrote:A link to eDuck and a listing of the Ducks starting lineup and the recruiting stars when they signed. Lots of 4 star guy behind 2 star guys.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=128&f=1423&t=5309026
well a couple of things. like one of the posters mentions, the masoli 1 star thing is just because he wasn't rated by anyone. he was arguably the best JC qb in the country which pretty much means he was at least a 4 star kid. asper is a 2 star because when players go on missions, they are rarely ever re-ranked when they come back. and one has to remember that getting a scholie FROM ANY D-1 school means you get at least 2 stars. so if you only get ONE scholie offer from U of Idaho and ZERO other offers, you get 2 stars.

Re: Trust the coaches

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:27 pm
by bigfootlebowski
maxduck wrote:A link to eDuck and a listing of the Ducks starting lineup and the recruiting stars when they signed. Lots of 4 star guy behind 2 star guys.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=128&f=1423&t=5309026
they show masoli as 1*(before evaluation?) but i am certain he was bumped up to a 4*, he did win the jc national champ as a freshman qb

Re: Trust the coaches

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:29 pm
by bigfootlebowski
maxduck wrote:A link to eDuck and a listing of the Ducks starting lineup and the recruiting stars when they signed. Lots of 4 star guy behind 2 star guys.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=128&f=1423&t=5309026
and james was a 4 star i guess this is the diff between scout and rivals...

Re: Trust the coaches

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:46 pm
by GrandpaDuck
Masoli was a 1 star at the time he was signed. Scout re-evaluated him after he signed to a 3 star.

http://oregon.scout.com/a.z?s=128&p=8&c=1&nid=3481647

Both the pre and post signing evaluations are still on the Scout site.

Re: Trust the coaches

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:28 pm
by duckgrad99
I trust the coaches with offensive players, but I'm not sure about defensive players. If the problem isn't Aliotti, it must be the talent or lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball. Finding a few guys that can put pressure on opposing qb's would be nice. We'll find guys occasionally like a Nick Reed or Kenny Rowe, but not enough.

Re: Trust the coaches

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:01 pm
by shear_j
duckgrad99 wrote:I trust the coaches with offensive players, but I'm not sure about defensive players. If the problem isn't Aliotti, it must be the talent or lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball. Finding a few guys that can put pressure on opposing qb's would be nice. We'll find guys occasionally like a Nick Reed or Kenny Rowe, but not enough.
Also...this is the first year I've been happy with our linebackers. Its not that we haven't signed good ones, like Terrance Pritchett who was the #2 MLB in the country, but sometimes they just haven't panned out. I dont know if they've been just busts or issues in developing, but I think that was one of the biggest differences this year with our defense playing better.

I mean we've had some good ones (trucks and phillips come to mind right off the top of my head) but never a complete LB corp since the Madson Moretti Mallard and Mitchell days.

Other than linebackers, I couldn't be happier with our recruiting and development though.

Re: Trust the coaches

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:54 pm
by woundedknees
Having 2 or 3 of those failure to qualify 4-5 Star interior linemen make it in may well have gone a long ways toward making the other members of the defense look a lot better.

Balance is a beautiful thing.

Re: Trust the coaches

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:52 am
by hendrg
shear_j wrote:
duckgrad99 wrote:I trust the coaches with offensive players, but I'm not sure about defensive players. If the problem isn't Aliotti, it must be the talent or lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball. Finding a few guys that can put pressure on opposing qb's would be nice. We'll find guys occasionally like a Nick Reed or Kenny Rowe, but not enough.
Also...this is the first year I've been happy with our linebackers. Its not that we haven't signed good ones, like Terrance Pritchett who was the #2 MLB in the country, but sometimes they just haven't panned out. I dont know if they've been just busts or issues in developing, but I think that was one of the biggest differences this year with our defense playing better.

I mean we've had some good ones (trucks and phillips come to mind right off the top of my head) but never a complete LB corp since the Madson Moretti Mallard and Mitchell days.

Other than linebackers, I couldn't be happier with our recruiting and development though.
I hear ya when looking at the past. The future looks awesome to me though:

Pleasant, Matthews and Paysinger 1 more year together.

I've really liked the play of Kaddu, Alonso, Clay and Littlejohn this year as well.

Waiting in the wings we have Boseko Lokombo and Dewitt Stuckey - both those guys have potential as well.

I'm pumped!

meaningless

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:43 pm
by sx1080
maxduck wrote:A link to eDuck and a listing of the Ducks starting lineup and the recruiting stars when they signed. Lots of 4 star guy behind 2 star guys.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=128&f=1423&t=5309026

the two and three star guys that start might only be starting becasue staff wiffed on the 4 and 5 star guys they wanted and offered.

Maybe the Ducks would be undefeated and in the NC game the last two yrs if they got the 4 and 5 star guys they recruited.

Re: meaningless

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:11 pm
by ducksrock
sx1080 wrote:
maxduck wrote:A link to eDuck and a listing of the Ducks starting lineup and the recruiting stars when they signed. Lots of 4 star guy behind 2 star guys.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=128&f=1423&t=5309026

the two and three star guys that start might only be starting becasue staff wiffed on the 4 and 5 star guys they wanted and offered.

Maybe the Ducks would be undefeated and in the NC game the last two yrs if they got the 4 and 5 star guys they recruited.
I think the Ducks are doin just fine the way things are....We are savin the NC for 2010-2011....