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...and hire someone that can actually get DL recruits to sign? How many years since we've had a decent DL make it into school?

Linehan and Faaeteete? in 05'?

Send him out on a rail...tarred and feathered.

ChazR wrote:...and hire someone that can actually get DL recruits to sign? How many years since we've had a decent DL make it into school?

Linehan and Faaeteete? in 05'?

Send him out on a rail...tarred and feathered.

Don't see how this would be beneficial at any moment of recruiting and may in fact be detrimental since it would seem that our coaching staff isn't as cohesive as some would believe. If CK wanted to get rid of NA, as head coach, it's his move and MB would not be in a position to do much. The fact that he's still there means something.

Rule of thumb: DON'T fire coordinators the year after you make it to a Rose Bowl.

And also, let's not forget all the quality DE's, LB's, CB's, and safeties he's signed in the last couple of years. You don't fire a coach because he's had poor recruiting at one position. And that's not to mention the fact that he HAS gotten kids, they just haven't qualified.

So, in summary,

Give Coach Azz. some time to recruits his own DL. its only his first year and im sure he will land some good/big time DL.

The defense were only responsible for 1 loss this year, the offense was responsible for the other 2.

In the Rose Bowl, keep in mind that Pryor played out of his mind and we still held them in check, the offense just didn't adjust to throw it more/take advantage of the speed on the edges (more fly sweeps, tzr, etc).

Also, many people seem to forget how the D won us a couple of crucial games (Utah and UCLA ring a bell?).

I don't like Allioti's scheme all that much, but keep in mind that towards the end of the season good offenses score no matter what. Remember Bama's Offense score 37 on Texas' Nº 2 Defense - and think most of us will agree that Oregon's offense was better at the end of the year than Bama's.

Recruiting is tough, but have some faith - Gray is more to blame for out DT woes at the moment.

hendrg wrote:The defense were only responsible for 1 loss this year, the offense was responsible for the other 2.

In the Rose Bowl, keep in mind that Pryor played out of his mind and we still held them in check, the offense just didn't adjust to throw it more/take advantage of the speed on the edges (more fly sweeps, tzr, etc).

Also, many people seem to forget how the D won us a couple of crucial games (Utah and UCLA ring a bell?).

I don't like Allioti's scheme all that much, but keep in mind that towards the end of the season good offenses score no matter what. Remember Bama's Offense score 37 on Texas' Nº 2 Defense - and think most of us will agree that Oregon's offense was better at the end of the year than Bama's.

Recruiting is tough, but have some faith - Gray is more to blame for out DT woes at the moment.

Yep and that was why he got fired by Kelly. But I think it was more a way to blame someone else for Aliotti's shortcomings and Bellotti not wanting to fire a close friend.

[quote="hendrg"]The defense were only responsible for 1 loss this year, the offense was responsible for the other 2.quote]
I'd argue that Toby Gerhart was responsible for that 1.

PDXShogun wrote:

hendrg wrote:The defense were only responsible for 1 loss this year, the offense was responsible for the other 2.quote]
I'd argue that Toby Gerhart was responsible for that 1.

True, Stanford played the perfect game, had a bye week before, etc. But the D-line got pummeled anyway you look at it.

That aside Toby should've gotten the Heismen.

Tray Dub wrote:Rule of thumb: DON'T fire coordinators the year after you make it to a Rose Bowl.

And also, let's not forget all the quality DE's, LB's, CB's, and safeties he's signed in the last couple of years. You don't fire a coach because he's had poor recruiting at one position. And that's not to mention the fact that he HAS gotten kids, they just haven't qualified.

So, in summary,

Yeah because NA was really a crucial part of the RB run.....

fecta23 wrote:

Tray Dub wrote:Rule of thumb: DON'T fire coordinators the year after you make it to a Rose Bowl.

And also, let's not forget all the quality DE's, LB's, CB's, and safeties he's signed in the last couple of years. You don't fire a coach because he's had poor recruiting at one position. And that's not to mention the fact that he HAS gotten kids, they just haven't qualified.

So, in summary,

Yeah because NA was really a crucial part of the RB run.....

well i looked this up last night in good 'ol educk chat because some peep were bitching about NA there too. And for the record, i'm never been a big fan of NA but I've never thought he was as bad as some folks think...anywho...back to the stats...we were 35th in the nation on total D. Highest we've been in god knows how long. We had the 5 hardest schedule in the country and hardest west of the Mississippi and ..we lost 2 starters on D...and we lost Walter on the first play of the game vs. Cal...which we won...42-3.

just use this link and never lose it.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?y ... A&site=org

just look through that and then look at the avg. yards we had compared to the number of plays our D had to play against. Having a spread offense will ALWAYS effect our D and the # of plays the D has to play because our time of possession is much smaller because of how quickly we usually score.

and to the guy who thinks firing the DC ONE WEEK before LOI day is possible...grow up. stop whining. good lord you're like a small child. stop being so damn greedy. we made it to the RB for the first time in 15 years and 50% of that fact was because of our D, not in spite of it. good god, we were playing a true frosh at db who weighed 165lbs. soaking wet in Harris. and yes, that last was meant to be insulting and i have no problem saying so.

^ I think this is a fair assesment.

and to the guy who thinks firing the DC ONE WEEK before LOI day is possible...grow up. stop whining. good lord you're like a small child. stop being so damn greedy. we made it to the RB for the first time in 15 years and 50% of that fact was because of our D, not in spite of it. good god, we were playing a true frosh at db who weighed 165lbs. soaking wet in Harris. and yes, that last was meant to be insulting and i have no problem saying so.[/quote]


And the basketball team made 2 Elite Eights, doesn't make Kent a great coach. I disagree that 50% was because of the D. More often than not, the defense didn't have to play well because the offense bailed them out. The offense of Oregon is consistent, the defense isn't.

duckgrad99 wrote:and to the guy who thinks firing the DC ONE WEEK before LOI day is possible...grow up. stop whining. good lord you're like a small child. stop being so damn greedy. we made it to the RB for the first time in 15 years and 50% of that fact was because of our D, not in spite of it. good god, we were playing a true frosh at db who weighed 165lbs. soaking wet in Harris. and yes, that last was meant to be insulting and i have no problem saying so.

And the basketball team made 2 Elite Eights, doesn't make Kent a great coach. I disagree that 50% was because of the D. More often than not, the defense didn't have to play well because the offense bailed them out. The offense of Oregon is consistent, the defense isn't.[/quote]
Right, look at how well the offense performed against Boise State and Ohio State. Didn't miss a beat.

I can't stand NA but you would never fire a coach before LOI day that would be a big mistake.

And for the record I thought our defense was good (not great) this year, I judge NA on his body of work...we need a defense that matches our offense in production and he just hasn't accomplished that over his career!

GO DUCKS!!

duckgrad99 wrote:and to the guy who thinks firing the DC ONE WEEK before LOI day is possible...grow up. stop whining. good lord you're like a small child. stop being so damn greedy. we made it to the RB for the first time in 15 years and 50% of that fact was because of our D, not in spite of it. good god, we were playing a true frosh at db who weighed 165lbs. soaking wet in Harris. and yes, that last was meant to be insulting and i have no problem saying so.

And the basketball team made 2 Elite Eights, doesn't make Kent a great coach. I disagree that 50% was because of the D. More often than not, the defense didn't have to play well because the offense bailed them out. The offense of Oregon is consistent, the defense isn't.[/quote]


Apples to oranges -if we had gone to the elite 8 last year, Kent would not be in the corner.
Though not great in the rose Bowl, the D kept the Buckys to the average points given up. What about the "consistent" O ?