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For the glass half full people...

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:39 pm
by Tray Dub
Just remember, we got the top uncommitted prospect on our board: Cliff Harris. He's number 41, Boyd is 51. And he's at a position of a lot more need.

I just don't see why we have a 13 page thread and 6 other related threads when we DONT get Boyd, but we have one 5 page thread when we DO get Harris.

Keep your heads up everybody

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:41 pm
by duckgrad99
I agree. I think it's because of the whole "east coast" thing, the fact that it was a qb, what happened with Pryor last year, etc. The bottom line though is that we need a top cover corner more than a qb right now.

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:56 pm
by dthomas=ddixon
duckgrad99 wrote:I agree. I think it's because of the whole "east coast" thing, the fact that it was a qb, what happened with Pryor last year, etc. The bottom line though is that we need a top cover corner more than a qb right now.
Completely agree, for once ;) . I posted after we got Harris that after BB he was the most important kid to get.

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:59 pm
by alabamaduck
Harris is more important but the reason there has been more talk about Boyd was that we sort of knew Harris was coming all along as long as he qualified. Boyd on the other hand has been like watching a soap opera

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:04 pm
by fpsduck
My glass will be 100% full come LOI day.

8-)

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:38 am
by Oracle
Because it's a lot harder to get excited about Harris when there's a good chance he ends up at JUCO.

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:43 am
by Tray Dub
Oracle wrote:Because it's a lot harder to get excited about Harris when there's a good chance he ends up at JUCO.
Not according to the latest update. Sounds like he's got a very good shot at getting in

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:08 am
by Oracle
Tray Dub wrote:
Oracle wrote:Because it's a lot harder to get excited about Harris when there's a good chance he ends up at JUCO.
Not according to the latest update. Sounds like he's got a very good shot at getting in
Sure, I hope he does but "update" doesn't mean much. Nobody usually has a chance to see their transcripts but coaches. Everyone else is usually speculating or taking the kid's word.

I hope you're right though. He will end up being one of the few "stars" of this class.

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:37 am
by Penky26
I just hope he gets in

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:43 am
by ivegottabigduck
IT was never about the need of Boyd. Anybody with any sense knows we didn't need him. Boyd was one of those potential big time coup's that if we pulled it off it would have been great. At least tOSU didn't get him.

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:00 am
by duckseason
The way I look at is that it's a two-year window for getting an elite QB recruit, and that window is hanging wide open. If given the choice, I'd rather have that QB in '10 rather than '09. '09 is early, '10 is just right, and '11 would be pushing it. Now, you take a 5* QB when you can get him, obviously. But I won't be too disappointed about the Tajh thing unless we whiff on getting a big time QB next year. And had we got Tajh, that alone may have dropped the domino that led to us missing on the guy we may end up with next year. That guy may even be a better fit for us than Tajh was perceived to be. This all remains to be seen.

We didn't strike out with Tajh. We pulled one just inside the foul pole. We're still at the plate.

With our staff and facilities and program in general, we all as fans should rest assured that we'll be fine at the QB position for the foreseeable future. There's no question we've been invited to the party. That battle is over. We're in the collective consciousness of top athletes across the country. There are a lot more Tajh Boyds out there than there are Chip Kellys and Autzen Stadiums. Those are 5* recruits who aren't going anywhere. We ought to keep that in mind.

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:04 am
by Tray Dub
duckseason wrote:The way I look at is that it's a two-year window for getting an elite QB recruit, and that window is hanging wide open. If given the choice, I'd rather have that QB in '10 rather than '09. '09 is early, '10 is just right, and '11 would be pushing it. Now, you take a 5* QB when you can get him, obviously. But I won't be too disappointed about the Tajh thing unless we whiff on getting a big time QB next year. And had we got Tajh, that alone may have dropped the domino that led to us missing on the guy we may end up with next year. That guy may even be a better fit for us than Tajh was perceived to be. This all remains to be seen.

We didn't strike out with Tajh. We pulled one just inside the foul pole. We're still at the plate.

With our staff and facilities and program in general, we all as fans should rest assured that we'll be fine at the QB position for the foreseeable future. There's no question we've been invited to the party. That battle is over. We're in the collective consciousness of top athletes across the country. There are a lot more Tajh Boyds out there than there are Chip Kellys and Autzen Stadiums. Those are 5* recruits who aren't going anywhere. We ought to keep that in mind.
Great post man. This is the right perspective. It's not fun to lose him, but it's not like we're in any trouble at QB (yet)

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:06 am
by woundedknees
It does stink when you realize USC had 3 5 * QBs on hand at the same time... Yet other guy's don't have enough maturity or confidence in themselves to try competing for PT at a school like Oregon.

Part of the problem is salemanship, and unfortunately, the 'product' at Oregon doesn't 'sell itself', yet.

Part of the job of a good salesman, is overcoming 'objections', whether they be real, like location, or imagined, like a perceived lack of ballance in the offense, or the inability of the D to stop third and long.

As a new coach, CK will need to walk a tight rope, creating a dynamic, balanced staff that combines great chemistry and teaching skills with the salesmanship to bring in the talent that allows that staff to put an even more productive and exciting product on the field.

Good luck in the future, Chip!

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:32 am
by impurz
Its the classic car wreck scenario. Harris is the cop car sitting there clocking people, we take a glance and keep on going. Boyd is the 3 car pile up everyone slows down and rubbernecks over.

Harris will make a difference earlier than Boyd ever would. I think we dodged a bullet, we don't know how badly his knee is hurt or if it can be 100% repaired. Nate Costa anyone???

Re: For the glass half full people...

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:35 am
by woundedknees
Fear of injury was probably one of the tools used to sell Tajh against coming to Oregon.