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With signing day coming up tomorrow, how should we judge this class?

We have a bunch of talent coming in at the skill positions:
Bennett, Williams, Seastrunk, Lowe, Huff, White. Also a couple of highly ranked OLs, Clanton and Rowland.
We've got solid DBs + Mathis, and we just might end up with some good S/LB prospects like Dixon and Dargan and Malone.

In some ways, this is a class that is potentially loaded with future standouts, and on paper it ranks right up there with the elite teams in CFB.

But on the other hand, we've missed out on our real areas of need.
More than any other competitive team, the Ducks have a desperate need for some talent on the defensive line. We have a crisis brewing on the Dline. It was exposed against Stanford and in the Rose Bowl last year. It is the biggest weakness on the team, period.

So far, we have a JC DE and a project DE (Washington) coming in.

What we really needed was two talented DTs and two talented DEs, plus Washington (hybrid DE) and Remington (JC).

Instead, we came up empty.

So do we judge this class based on the successful recruiting of speed and skill positions?

Or by our failure to recruit our needs on the Defensive Line?

vagusnerve wrote:With signing day coming up tomorrow, how should we judge this class?

We have a bunch of talent coming in at the skill positions:
Bennett, Williams, Seastrunk, Lowe, Huff, White. Also a couple of highly ranked OLs, Clanton and Rowland.
We've got solid DBs + Mathis, and we just might end up with some good S/LB prospects like Dixon and Dargan and Malone.

In some ways, this is a class that is potentially loaded with future standouts, and on paper it ranks right up there with the elite teams in CFB.

But on the other hand, we've missed out on our real areas of need.
More than any other competitive team, the Ducks have a desperate need for some talent on the defensive line. We have a crisis brewing on the Dline. It was exposed against Stanford and in the Rose Bowl last year. It is the biggest weakness on the team, period.

So far, we have a JC DE and a project DE (Washington) coming in.

What we really needed was two talented DTs and two talented DEs, plus Washington (hybrid DE) and Remington (JC).

Instead, we came up empty.

So do we judge this class based on the successful recruiting of speed and skill positions?

Or by our failure to recruit our needs on the Defensive Line?

both.. I give it a B-. Skill positions: A. DT: F

It's hard to judge until we know exactly who we get, but I would give it a B right now.

Easy, we judge it in 4 years.

vagusnerve wrote:With signing day coming up tomorrow, how should we judge this class?

We have a bunch of talent coming in at the skill positions:
Bennett, Williams, Seastrunk, Lowe, Huff, White. Also a couple of highly ranked OLs, Clanton and Rowland.
We've got solid DBs + Mathis, and we just might end up with some good S/LB prospects like Dixon and Dargan and Malone.

In some ways, this is a class that is potentially loaded with future standouts, and on paper it ranks right up there with the elite teams in CFB.

But on the other hand, we've missed out on our real areas of need.
More than any other competitive team, the Ducks have a desperate need for some talent on the defensive line. We have a crisis brewing on the Dline. It was exposed against Stanford and in the Rose Bowl last year. It is the biggest weakness on the team, period.

So far, we have a JC DE and a project DE (Washington) coming in.

What we really needed was two talented DTs and two talented DEs, plus Washington (hybrid DE) and Remington (JC).

Instead, we came up empty.

So do we judge this class based on the successful recruiting of speed and skill positions?

Or by our failure to recruit our needs on the Defensive Line?

Huff committed? I must have missed that. My guess is that we go after D-line like crazy next year or two. We have Hart who res shirted last year and sounds like he may be legit up front. If Im not mistakin I think there was another DT that was making tome noise as a red shirt in practice last year as well.
So imo I think this class will pay huge dividend down the road and we will probably end up with a few more elite players next year if we put another pac10 title in 2011,

Even if we do wiff on DT's this year. I think that overall this is the best class that Oregon has ever brought in.

Hard to judge the success of a recruiting class until these players are actually in a position to get significant PT. You never know if we'll have any under the radar guys who do much better than people thought they would (see: Patrick Chung, TJ Ward, etc.) or on the other side of the coin if any of our higher ranked guys don't live up to expectations (Cameron Colvin). Only time will tell how successful this recruiting class turns out.

We did whiff on some major needs though...

Boom wrote:Even if we do wiff on DT's this year. I think that overall this is the best class that Oregon has ever brought in.

Scout says otherwise: #9 class 2007

http://oregon.scout.com/a.z?s=128&p=9&c=14&yr=2007

Remington says that he'll be at 285 or higher by next season. I think it's fair to say that with our need at DT, he'll be able to fill one spot if he can indeed get that big (at 275 now, seems reasonable).

I also think you're going to see us go almost STRICTLY after DLmen next recruiting cycle.

We're deep at qb now, deep at rb, fairly deep at wr, deep at TE, solid at OL (losing 3 after next yr, bringing in at least 2 this yr), solid at cb, solid at safety, solid at LB (although turning over a few over the next couple years), and ok at DE.

This was the point of my "batch recruiting" thread I posted a few days ago.

We've sufficiently built up talent and depth at EVERY position but DL, so I think we'll go full steam ahead, all hands on deck for DL next year. I expect us to bring in several JC DEs, several HS DEs, several JC DTs AND several HS DTs (hopefully ALL studs!).

After we've sufficiently locked that kind of depth and talent up, we'll go after an OL or 2, a LB or 2, a QB and a wr or two and call it good. That's my guess...

sx1080 wrote:

Boom wrote:Even if we do wiff on DT's this year. I think that overall this is the best class that Oregon has ever brought in.

Scout says otherwise: #9 class 2007

http://oregon.scout.com/a.z?s=128&p=9&c=14&yr=2007

That class did include 2 4* d lineman Fili and Wade who never set foot on campus and a total of 29 commits w avg * of 3.14. I'd expect this years class to be on par with that if not better.

sx1080 wrote:

Boom wrote:Even if we do wiff on DT's this year. I think that overall this is the best class that Oregon has ever brought in.

Scout says otherwise: #9 class 2007

http://oregon.scout.com/a.z?s=128&p=9&c=14&yr=2007

and 4 of those 4-stars never played.. 2 didn't qualify.. one got kicked off the team... and we all know about TD29

sx1080 wrote:

Boom wrote:Even if we do wiff on DT's this year. I think that overall this is the best class that Oregon has ever brought in.

Scout says otherwise: #9 class 2007

http://oregon.scout.com/a.z?s=128&p=9&c=14&yr=2007

Still whiffed on DTs then, even the ones we signed. Glad we signed so many that class because some have become serious players and more than a few are no longer on the team. What a tragedy with TD.

I grade the class on potential alone of course~ Give it a A- to B+ Lake 5 star was a huge get and the 4 star DB Mathis and some others...but getting legit 4-5 star DL/DT this year would of given this class a A+ for sure! we obviously didn't address that need!

honestly though there are some diamonds in the ruff with some of these 3 star recruits...you just don't have an idea how they will pan out till they get playing time by working on their techniques and body bulk up!

canaduck wrote:

sx1080 wrote:

Boom wrote:Even if we do wiff on DT's this year. I think that overall this is the best class that Oregon has ever brought in.

Scout says otherwise: #9 class 2007

http://oregon.scout.com/a.z?s=128&p=9&c=14&yr=2007

Still whiffed on DTs then, even the ones we signed. Glad we signed so many that class because some have become serious players and more than a few are no longer on the team. What a tragedy with TD.

thats why it was critical to sign 5 DTs this yr. The late offers of Dungy etc make no sense what so ever.