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Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:53 pm
by uostudent
I know this is a sensitive issue, but it's a reality. Pretty much every year, a few commits don't qualify and have to go the JC route.

For example, Josh Huff has a 2.7 GPA. That seems borderline. Hopefully, his test scores are decent. From everything I read, he seemed like he would qualify when he committed to Minnesota. I'm just using Huff as an example.

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:55 pm
by Elduderino
Athlete with a 2.7 will qualify as long as his credits and test scores are fine. I'm not sure about now, but eligibility used to be based on a sliding scale.

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:08 pm
by canaduck
uostudent wrote:I know this is a sensitive issue, but it's a reality. Pretty much every year, a few commits don't qualify and have to go the JC route.

For example, Josh Huff has a 2.7 GPA. That seems borderline. Hopefully, his test scores are decent. From everything I read, he seemed like he would qualify when he committed to Minnesota. I'm just using Huff as an example.
Gabe King had a 2.8 in his JR year and is apparently getting into Cal so I'm hoping we should be ok.

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:20 pm
by PDXShogun
I know Dontae Williams had some concerns around him at some point. Haven't heard about it for a while though.

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:24 pm
by ivegottabigduck
It used to be a sliding scale. Lower GPA meant you had to score higher on the SAT/ACT and vice versa...the old "I'm not a good test taker" line.

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:32 pm
by uostudent
Just did a little research on Dontae Williams. As of June 2009, he had a 2.2(!) GPA and scored a 19 on his ACT.

From the NCAA website:
The "sliding scale" has also been extended. It will now allow a higher core GPA to reduce the SAT component. A 2.5 core GPA will still require a 820 SAT score, a higher core GPA of 2.75 GPA would need a 720 SAT score, a 3.0 core GPA would only require a 620 SAT score and a 3.55 core GPA would require just a 400 SAT score. The NCAA states that their research indicates that core class grades were the best indicators of academic success during a student-athlete’s freshman year. The NCAA has also announced that they might also increase the overall number of required core classes to 15 or 16 in the near future.

Also found this:
http://www.athletics.illinois.edu/acade ... ements.htm

A 19 on the ACT is equivalent to a 900-930. As things stand right now, Dontae would not meet NCAA minimum requirements. Hopefully his grades have improved since then. Also, even if he meets the NCAA minimum, it doesn't mean that he would be admitted to UO. Sounds like Williams is the most borderline recruit we have right now.

Any chance that MOPS can interview him and ask him about his grades?

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:42 pm
by maxduck
uostudent wrote:Just did a little research on Dontae Williams. As of June 2009, he had a 2.2(!) GPA and scored a 19 on his ACT.

From the NCAA website:
The "sliding scale" has also been extended. It will now allow a higher core GPA to reduce the SAT component. A 2.5 core GPA will still require a 820 SAT score, a higher core GPA of 2.75 GPA would need a 720 SAT score, a 3.0 core GPA would only require a 620 SAT score and a 3.55 core GPA would require just a 400 SAT score. The NCAA states that their research indicates that core class grades were the best indicators of academic success during a student-athlete’s freshman year. The NCAA has also announced that they might also increase the overall number of required core classes to 15 or 16 in the near future.

Also found this:
http://www.athletics.illinois.edu/acade ... ements.htm

A 19 on the ACT is equivalent to a 900-930. As things stand right now, Dontae would not meet NCAA minimum requirements. Hopefully his grades have improved since then. Also, even if he meets the NCAA minimum, it doesn't mean that he would be admitted to UO. Sounds like Williams is the most borderline recruit we have right now.

Any chance that MOPS can interview him and ask him about his grades?
Good info. Thanks.

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:45 pm
by pikestick
I remember an interview on Duck Territory a couple/few months ago with Dontae where he was asked about his grades and he said that everything was going fine with them and they weren't going to be an issue.

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:02 pm
by briarduck
pikestick wrote:I remember an interview on Duck Territory a couple/few months ago with Dontae where he was asked about his grades and he said that everything was going fine with them and they weren't going to be an issue.

That's great to hear, I remember reading the same thing.

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:07 pm
by karlhungis
pikestick wrote:I remember an interview on Duck Territory a couple/few months ago with Dontae where he was asked about his grades and he said that everything was going fine with them and they weren't going to be an issue.
same here

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:32 pm
by GoDucksIn09
We shall see. I do not remember anything specific but just because a recruit says his grades are not an issue does not neccesairly make it so. I hope they are..I would expect in a few weeks we might have an idea.

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:47 pm
by uostudent
GoDucksIn09 wrote:We shall see. I do not remember anything specific but just because a recruit says his grades are not an issue does not neccesairly make it so. I hope they are..I would expect in a few weeks we might have an idea.
Agree. Saying you're "fine" doesn't mean much. I'd like to hear what his GPA is now and whether or not has retaken the ACT.

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:57 pm
by glazeduck
I think the answer is pretty damn easy.

CLEARLY it's Ricky Heimuli! There's no way Oregon could EVER get a DT who's also smart enough to academically qualify. That's like as constant as gravity, death and taxes. I thought everyone knew that?!?

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:11 pm
by woundedknees
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/r ... muli-81604

Ricky Heimuli... 3.2 GPA.

Clearly too intelligent to play DT at Oregon.

Re: Recruit most likely to not qualify

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:03 pm
by gofightingducks
glazeduck wrote:I think the answer is pretty damn easy.

CLEARLY it's Ricky Heimuli! There's no way Oregon could EVER get a DT who's also smart enough to academically qualify. That's like as constant as gravity, death and taxes. I thought everyone knew that?!?

The answer to all of out DT problems is to get DT's from Utah (Haloti qualified and was the best DT probably ever at Oregon and didn't go on a mission)