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How does all this effect recruiting next year? Is there anyway to spin this as a positive recruiting tool? Is it all Negative? or will it not effect recruiting at all?
Whats your opinion?

brich75 wrote:How does all this effect recruiting next year? Is there anyway to spin this as a positive recruiting tool? Is it all Negative? or will it not effect recruiting at all?
Whats your opinion?

If Masoli stays and competes in 2011, it now looks as if you only need 1 QB in the class. If Masoli leaves, you stick with the original plan and go after 2 but still be able to settle on 1.

greenyellow wrote:

brich75 wrote:How does all this effect recruiting next year? Is there anyway to spin this as a positive recruiting tool? Is it all Negative? or will it not effect recruiting at all?
Whats your opinion?

If Masoli stays and competes in 2011, it now looks as if you only need 1 QB in the class. If Masoli leaves, you stick with the original plan and go after 2 but still be able to settle on 1.

I say you play it safe and go for 2 QB's. I hope we can bring in the talent we would have if this crap never had happened!

brich75 wrote:

greenyellow wrote:

brich75 wrote:How does all this effect recruiting next year? Is there anyway to spin this as a positive recruiting tool? Is it all Negative? or will it not effect recruiting at all?
Whats your opinion?

If Masoli stays and competes in 2011, it now looks as if you only need 1 QB in the class. If Masoli leaves, you stick with the original plan and go after 2 but still be able to settle on 1.

I say you play it safe and go for 2 QB's. I hope we can bring in the talent we would have if this crap never had happened!

The coaches will go after more than 2 QBs but they can settle for 1 if need be. QB is not going to be a position of need if Masoli stays. DL, OL, and WR will be the major needs after this coming season.

I think the question has to do with how all this effects our ability to recruit, not who our targets might be.

In the big scheme of things, I think it effects very little. This has been a minor national story until the frenzy of today, so its not like it was leading Sportscenter every night. So far the reaction from national writers has been positive for Chip.

Hell, if these things had the impact some claim, Florida would be in the basement of the SEC.

I think the main thing this could affect is not next season's recruits but the recruits after that (class of 2012) since they are just starting the process and may look at Oregon differently. If Oregon does poorly as a result of Masoli not playing, then we could be hurt a bit in the 2012 class. If Costa or DT step up and the season turns out like we expected, then the recruiting impact may not change or may be helped.

I think it definitely affects our ability to recruit. I am getting constant grief from fans of our rivals. Don't think for a minute that potential recruits won't hear the same from other coaches, recruits, fans, etc... And parents will worry about the school's influence on their kid. I would if I were them. I hate to say it but this offseason has definitely set our program back.

I think it cast a very negative light on Oregon. I have been harrassed and beat up the last 36 hours for being a duck fan by rival fans. You have to know that other coaches when hear kids considering Oregon will be quick to shine the light on all these things. I would hope I am wrong. Think about it from a parents perspective. One that does not have any ties to any school and had your kid considering playing at USC Stanford Oregon or Cal... where would you send your kid if had no ties to Oregon. You know the other 3 are going to be quick to point at all of this to try to sway the kid away from Oregon and to their school.

GoDucksIn09 wrote:I think it cast a very negative light on Oregon. I have been harrassed and beat up the last 36 hours for being a duck fan by rival fans. You have to know that other coaches when hear kids considering Oregon will be quick to shine the light on all these things. I would hope I am wrong. Think about it from a parents perspective. One that does not have any ties to any school and had your kid considering playing at USC Stanford Oregon or Cal... where would you send your kid if had no ties to Oregon. You know the other 3 are going to be quick to point at all of this to try to sway the kid away from Oregon and to their school.

Like USC is so squeaky clean

duck55 wrote:

GoDucksIn09 wrote:I think it cast a very negative light on Oregon. I have been harrassed and beat up the last 36 hours for being a duck fan by rival fans. You have to know that other coaches when hear kids considering Oregon will be quick to shine the light on all these things. I would hope I am wrong. Think about it from a parents perspective. One that does not have any ties to any school and had your kid considering playing at USC Stanford Oregon or Cal... where would you send your kid if had no ties to Oregon. You know the other 3 are going to be quick to point at all of this to try to sway the kid away from Oregon and to their school.

Like USC is so squeaky clean

yeah, i was gonna say.....lol

It will have an effect on some of the recruits and it should only be a short term effect. There are plenty of other schools that have had similar problems and it didn't effect them too bad or for very long. From what I see on the recruiting websites is that there is already a ton of early interest from some very high profile recruits. Hopefully this is it for the Ducks off field problems and if so then by the time most of the recruits are making up their minds (mid/late season) these problems will be a thing of the past. The Ducks are lucky these things happened early in the offseason and not during the football season. The Ducks will be fine and will continue their rise to in making it to the next level!

GoDucksIn09 wrote:I think it cast a very negative light on Oregon. I have been harrassed and beat up the last 36 hours for being a duck fan by rival fans. You have to know that other coaches when hear kids considering Oregon will be quick to shine the light on all these things. I would hope I am wrong. Think about it from a parents perspective. One that does not have any ties to any school and had your kid considering playing at USC Stanford Oregon or Cal... where would you send your kid if had no ties to Oregon. You know the other 3 are going to be quick to point at all of this to try to sway the kid away from Oregon and to their school.

Read the rap sheets at Texas, Florida, Penn state, Ohio State, and the list goes on. Rival fans have zero effect on players. And as far as parents, there might be some who have misgivings, but just as many will be impressed that Chip acts in a fair and thoughtful way concerning the players. I say this has zero to little effect. Florida would not be national champs if it did.

IMO it will be positive. Recruits & parents don't look at what 5-6 guys out of 100+ do on a team. What they do look at is how Chip handles it. As a parent you know your kid isn't perfect & with him moving away he could end up putting himself in some bad situation & end up making some mistakes. Thats just the reality of an 18 year old going away to college.

And you look at how Chip handled LaMike & Masoli. One was just in a bad situation & the other made a bad decision & put himself in the bad situation. But both are still on the team & have a shot at not just playing football again but can still graduate & get their degree.

IMO a parent would look at that & realize that even if their kid messes up their careers won't be finished. The majority of coaches would have dumped Masoli in a second. But Chip showed just how much he cares for his players by giving guys like Blount & Masoli, who both really messed up, second chances. He still hands down harsh punishments but doesn't end these kids careers. Parent will see from these situations that Chip really loves & cares for his players and won't won't throw them under the bus just to save face. Chip backs his players no matter how much flack he takes.

Dthomas... we have had our share of respectful disagreements and I hope so much in this case you are absolutely right. I do worry about it. I know the local media worries about the impact this will have going down the road. I was watching the local news and they talked a little about the negative light it shined on the university.

I would be curious to know what kind of spin ESPN Rivals.. Scouts etc etc are putting on this and what they think of Coach Kelly and his handling. I only ask this because if not in the state of Oregon these are ways you learn of things about schools.

In regards to USC... they are defnitely not squeeky clean.. but unlike USC Florida and Texas.. we do not have a NC to hang our hat on.

There is no such thing as negative publicity. But with Masoli's theft plea I think we have had enough negative pub for one off season. The worse effect on recruits is going to be the drop in the polls. WE were preseason picks to possibly go to the NC game. That talk will be gone now. That talk over the summer would have had a major impact on recruiting. That is gone now and we will be another up and coming team. Oh well.