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Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:04 pm
by uostudent
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DAVID FLORES: Tivy QB Manziel leaves door open for A&M after visit

Kerrville Tivy senior quarterback Johnny Manziel had been on the Texas A&M campus before last weekend, but his experience in College Station was markedly different this time.
That’s not a surprise considering Manziel, one of the most exciting high school quarterbacks anywhere, now has the full attention of Aggies coach Mike Sherman and his staff.

Offered a scholarship by the Aggies last Monday despite being committed to Oregon since June, Manziel made an unofficial visit to A&M with a few of his Tivy teammates Saturday and Sunday.

Among other things, he took in the Aggies’ season-opening 48-7 victory over Stephen F. Austin in their season opener and, in his words, “had a blast.”

To hear Manziel tell it, Sherman and his staff pulled out all the stops to make him feel welcome.

“They showed me a lot of love,” Manziel said Monday night. “I got a chance to talk with all the coaches and some of the players. I was very impressed. It was great to see a game there with 81,000 people in the stadium, swaying back and forth.”

While saying he hasn’t changed his mind about Oregon, Manziel didn’t rule out withdrawing his commitment, either.

Considering Manziel plans to be in College Station each of the next two weekends, the Ducks could be hard pressed to keep him in their corner if gets more comfortable around the Aggies with each visit.

Manziel said last week that the reason for taking a second look at his commitment to Oregon would be driven by his desire to sign with a school closer to home, so his parents could see him play regularly.

“Just say I’m solidly committed to Oregon, but I’m looking at A&M and want to look into it some more,” he said. “I’ve talked to the coaches at Oregon and they understand my situation.

“They’re still going to recruit me hard and call me once a week, but they also know this is something I’ve got to look into. Ultimately, I think they’ll respect my decision either way.”

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“I’d like to go up there again with my friends because we had a blast this weekend,” Manziel said.

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Manziel said he probably would make an official visit to Oregon the first weekend in November.

“If I do, I’ll take my official visit to A&M the week before or after that so I can have something to compare,” Manziel said.

Manziel passed for 2,782 yards and 19 TDs and rushed for 1,529 yards and 33 TDs last year, when he helped lead the Antlers to the Class 4A Division II state semifinals. He also caught five passes for 159 yards and two TDs.
I was expecting us to lose one QB, but I thought it would be Marcus Mariota. It would stink if we lost Manziel's commitment. The guy is a tremendous athlete. As good as Randall may be, Manziel is very talented and would compete for playing time right away.

Sounds like he may want to stay close to home.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:26 pm
by Phenom
Nowhere near as good of an athlete. He doesn't throw the ball 80 yards, he doesn't run a 4.4.

Might be a better QB at this point, though. I don't want to lose any of the QBs. I think they are all potential starters.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:27 pm
by thegreenstain
He wouldn't compete for playing time right away at quarterback.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:29 pm
by JTinKC
We all knew we were going to lose at least one of these guys. The one good thing about Randall is he was already on alot of people's radar. While I think this guys numbers were impressive I watched his highlight video and can't say I would be overly sad if we lost him.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:43 pm
by uostudent
thegreenstain wrote:He wouldn't compete for playing time right away at quarterback.
Not at QB, but possibly at WR. He is a very good athlete and has a lot of position flexibility. I just don't want to sell him short on his ability to play QB because he is having a tremendous start to the year.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:28 pm
by gofightingducks
It would be great to keep him but he might be like Hawkins, Boyett, etc. and not even play QB at Oregon but be moved to another skill position. If DT has a good year or maybe the next two or three the Ducks could end up with a top QB over the next couple of recruiting classes. If Randall and Mariota stick with Oregon and Bennett already looking like a stud and DT with 3 more years of eligibility we will be fine at that position. I know we like to keep 5 QB's on scholarship so if he leaves and the other 2 stay does Chip go after someone else late or do we stick with 4 guys only. One luxury we do have is Hawkins could be used as a last resort. If he leaves it is more likely because of he doesn't want to compete with 3-4 other young guys.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:42 pm
by karlhungis
While saying he hasn’t changed his mind about Oregon
Just say I’m solidly committed to Oregon
It sounds to me like he just gave the usual recruit speak following a visit and this reporter seemed to have an A&M bias.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:33 pm
by Destroyer77
Recent interviews suggest that Manziel is sticking with the Ducks.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:35 pm
by buckmarkduck
Destroyer77 wrote:Recent interviews suggest that Manziel is sticking with the Ducks.
Shhh don't tell uostudent, he is constantly looking for proof that our recruits are about to de-commit.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:24 am
by thegreenstain
Biggus Duckus wrote:Out of the three QB commits we have, Manziel is the one I'd hate to lose the most.
Fortunately, I don't think Chip would agree.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:26 am
by thegreenstain
Destroyer77 wrote:Recent interviews suggest that Manziel is sticking with the Ducks.
Which recent interview are you referring to? I'm pretty sure I have read them all, but I would be interested in reading one that suggests he is sticking with the Ducks. At this moment, he is "committed" to the Ducks about the same way Brendon Bigelow is "committed" to the Huskies.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:25 am
by squintsdd
thegreenstain wrote:
Destroyer77 wrote:Recent interviews suggest that Manziel is sticking with the Ducks.
Which recent interview are you referring to? I'm pretty sure I have read them all, but I would be interested in reading one that suggests he is sticking with the Ducks. At this moment, he is "committed" to the Ducks about the same way Brendon Bigelow is "committed" to the Huskies.
You'll need to go to rivals for your answer

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:47 am
by PDXShogun
thegreenstain wrote:
Biggus Duckus wrote:Out of the three QB commits we have, Manziel is the one I'd hate to lose the most.
Fortunately, I don't think Chip would agree.
I wouldn't be so sure about this. As fun as Randall's film is to watch, being able to throw the ball 80 yards doesn't do much if you can't complete any passes. Randall was only 5-15 for 76 yards in his first game. I'm starting to think that he is the athlete and Manziel is quarterback.

...but it might not matter, sounds like Manziel has one foot out the door. Which is too bad because I, too, was starting to believe that he was the best of the 3.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:25 am
by uostudent
PDXShogun wrote:
thegreenstain wrote:
Biggus Duckus wrote:Out of the three QB commits we have, Manziel is the one I'd hate to lose the most.
Fortunately, I don't think Chip would agree.
I wouldn't be so sure about this. As fun as Randall's film is to watch, being able to throw the ball 80 yards doesn't do much if you can't complete any passes. Randall was only 5-15 for 76 yards in his first game. I'm starting to think that he is the athlete and Manziel is quarterback.

...but it might not matter, sounds like Manziel has one foot out the door. Which is too bad because I, too, was starting to believe that he was the best of the 3.
You do realize that Randall is also playing against the strongest competition of the 3 QB's. I believe Manziel has played a few good teams, but most of the teams he has played against in the past have not been the elite level teams of Texas.

Re: Sounds like we may lose Manziel

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:09 am
by PDXShogun
uostudent wrote:
PDXShogun wrote:
thegreenstain wrote:
Biggus Duckus wrote:Out of the three QB commits we have, Manziel is the one I'd hate to lose the most.
Fortunately, I don't think Chip would agree.
I wouldn't be so sure about this. As fun as Randall's film is to watch, being able to throw the ball 80 yards doesn't do much if you can't complete any passes. Randall was only 5-15 for 76 yards in his first game. I'm starting to think that he is the athlete and Manziel is quarterback.

...but it might not matter, sounds like Manziel has one foot out the door. Which is too bad because I, too, was starting to believe that he was the best of the 3.
You do realize that Randall is also playing against the strongest competition of the 3 QB's. I believe Manziel has played a few good teams, but most of the teams he has played against in the past have not been the elite level teams of Texas.
I've read that Randall isn't playing in the highest level in Florida, either. Plus, the competition in Texas is every bit as good as Florida. The competition is probably very similar between the two.

Regardless, this isn't an excuse. Playing against top competition doesn't stop other high level recruits from producing outstanding numbers. If he's as good as they say, he'd produce no matter who he plays.