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Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:48 am
by fecta23
Oregon OT commit Tyler Johnstone got his 4th star on Rivals and is now ranked as the 133rd best player in the nation according to them. Huge jump.

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:00 pm
by SteelTown43
I watched some of his team's game that was televised a month or so back, and noticed that he was starting at LT for his team, not 5* Christian Westermann, who was at RT. Westermann is one of the 3 top OTs on any recruiting site and is projected as a LT at the next level.

Just sayin'...

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:04 pm
by Duck07
SteelTown43 wrote:I watched some of his team's game that was televised a month or so back, and noticed that he was starting at LT for his team, not 5* Christian Westermann, who was at RT. Westermann is one of the 3 top OTs on any recruiting site and is projected as a LT at the next level.

Just sayin'...
Is the qb left or right-handed? If he's left-handed then Tyler isn't protecting his blindside

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:06 pm
by Bigducker
Saw that yesterday. Coleman's also dropped to a 3 star a while ago. He probably hasn't received the offers that he would have if he didn't commit so early.
Also hope they bump up Mariota, he's played really well this year, actually better than Randall although people will say that's because Randall played in a tougher league.
Don't know but we'll find out next few years. I still think Mariota turns out to be the better QB.

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:11 pm
by SteelTown43
Regardless of which arm the QB throws with, the LT is paired up against the WDE in a 4-3 or a WOLB in a 3-4, which is almost always a team's best pass rusher. That is the main reason that the LT is such an important position. I'm not discounting the blind-side factor, but that is the main reason. Either way, he looks like very good get.

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:20 pm
by HomeFieldAdvantage
SteelTown43 wrote:Regardless of which arm the QB throws with, the LT is paired up against the WDE in a 4-3 or a WOLB in a 3-4, which is almost always a team's best pass rusher. That is the main reason that the LT is such an important position. I'm not discounting the blind-side factor, but that is the main reason. Either way, he looks like very good get.
I always just assumed it was because most NFL QB's are right handed so the LT was the important position. I didn't realize it had to do with the WDE or WOLB. Interesting. My knowledge of the defensive side of the ball definitely has some room for improvement.

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:44 pm
by Boom
I think we have a pretty impressive O line group coming in this class

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:49 pm
by fecta23
SteelTown43 wrote:Regardless of which arm the QB throws with, the LT is paired up against the WDE in a 4-3 or a WOLB in a 3-4, which is almost always a team's best pass rusher. That is the main reason that the LT is such an important position. I'm not discounting the blind-side factor, but that is the main reason. Either way, he looks like very good get.
incorrect. 07 was spot on.

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:57 pm
by Boom
fecta23 wrote:
SteelTown43 wrote:Regardless of which arm the QB throws with, the LT is paired up against the WDE in a 4-3 or a WOLB in a 3-4, which is almost always a team's best pass rusher. That is the main reason that the LT is such an important position. I'm not discounting the blind-side factor, but that is the main reason. Either way, he looks like very good get.
incorrect. 07 was spot on.
you know that for a fact?

I'm pretty sure there's some truth to what steeltown is saying.

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:59 pm
by SteelTown43
Wow, that's profound fecta. At least I explain my opinion, which, in this case, is correct.

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:11 pm
by fecta23
Boom wrote:
fecta23 wrote:
SteelTown43 wrote:Regardless of which arm the QB throws with, the LT is paired up against the WDE in a 4-3 or a WOLB in a 3-4, which is almost always a team's best pass rusher. That is the main reason that the LT is such an important position. I'm not discounting the blind-side factor, but that is the main reason. Either way, he looks like very good get.
incorrect. 07 was spot on.
you know that for a fact?

I'm pretty sure there's some truth to what steeltown is saying.

The better tackle plays on the QB's blindside. Because he cant see the pass rusher coming. Also, strong side and weak side is not alway the same side so having the tackle based on the better pass rusher being on the weak side wouldnt make a lot of sense.....

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:15 pm
by UOducksTK1
I remember reading from an Arizona forum that they were saying Johnstone is probably the best OL in the state and the best OL on his team. He though Westerman wasn't as good.

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:20 pm
by Boom

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:41 pm
by Duck07
SteelTown43 wrote:Regardless of which arm the QB throws with, the LT is paired up against the WDE in a 4-3 or a WOLB in a 3-4, which is almost always a team's best pass rusher. That is the main reason that the LT is such an important position. I'm not discounting the blind-side factor, but that is the main reason. Either way, he looks like very good get.
Simply put: you are wrong. The blind side is where your best pass blocking T plays. Every time. There aren't a whole lot of left-handed qbs in the league so thats why the LT is recognized as the "blind side." As far as defining Weak/Strong Side Ends or Backers, that is based off formation and location on the field. If you run a basic I formation from the right hash with a tight left, twins left then the RDE or ROLB automatically become the strong side players.

Now, with Poe being a rh-QB we can safely say that Johnstone does indeed protect the blindside and we can then infer that he is clearly the better pass-blocking T on his team.

Re: Tyler Johnstone gets 4th Star

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:20 pm
by dthomas=ddixon
Sweet. This Oline class is legit. Now we just need to start filling up on some Dlineman.