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Good info about Barr, Got to just keep winning. If we win the last two games I would bet we grab 75% of these guys.

Also, If there is one site that's a good deal for the money it's ESPN. I got a pretty good deal for the first year. Cancelled and then they offered me a full year of the insider with ESPN the Mag for $10. Then about a week later they told me I could have another year for 1 dollar. Hell yes !! ....2 years of the insider, with all the recruiting and the magazine for 11 bucks.


"Although a soft commit to Washington, Cal actually seemed like the team to beat for running back Brendon Bigelow (Fresno, Calif./Central). After visiting Eugene last weekend, the buzz from talking to some of the coaches at Central is the Ducks are now the team to beat and have a great chance to land not only Bigelow but teammate and standout receiver B.J. Kelley as well.

Bigelow has missed his entire senior season with a knee injury but when healthy, he's one of the most explosive backs in the nation. He's a national recruit who already visited Tennessee and may take an official visit to Cal but the feeling right now is if signing day was this week, Bigelow would be a Duck.

Oregon is also the new leader for Auburn (Wash.) defensive tackle Danny Shelton. Washington has been the team to beat all year for Shelton and this one is far from over but the Ducks did a great job of putting themselves in to the race when it seemed all but over earlier in the year.

Another talented tackle the Ducks appear to now lead for is Lakewood (Calif.) standout Todd Barr. Barr was going to take one last visit to Miami in two weeks but will no longer make that trip and is close to making his decision.

Barr took visits to Washington, Cal and Florida but the visit to Oregon was his best trip. In fact, Barr nearly committed on the trip but wanted to come home and think things over more before finalizing everything. There's a good chance Barr could decide in the next few weeks and barring a last-minute change, the Ducks will have their second player from Lakewood to go with linebacker Rahim Cassell.

The two big fish still out there that the Ducks have a more realistic shot at than some may think are the Gardena (Calif.) Serra duo of Marqise Lee and George Farmer. Of the two, Oregon would appear to have the better shot with Lee, since Farmer has to be considered USC's to lose.

Saying that, Oregon has aggressively recruited both players hard since last spring and have made up a lot of ground. In fact, prior to USC offering Lee, the feeling was Oregon was the team to beat for the two-sport athlete and still might be as Lee has said many times he has no problem with leaving the state and may actually prefer to do it.

Farmer is a tough read and always maintains publicly he doesn't have a leader at this time. It is known he comes from a USC family and it could be tough for the receiver to leave home. The Ducks have definitely given Farmer a lot to think about and it would not be a total shock at all if both players along with their defensive end teammate Jason Gibson all end up in Eugene next fall."

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WOW I DONT THINK i HAVE EVER SEEN A LIST OF GUYS LIKE THAT SO HIGH ON OREGON AT THE SAME TIME!?!?

Great find!

For some reason, a TON of the players we're recruiting right now feels like our recruitment of Ricky Heimuli last year. Very under-the-radar with big things happening behind the scenes.

As much as Tosh gets his credit, it's my understanding that coach Azz and is a hell of a recruiter as well.

I fell asleep last night thinking about recruiting possibilities...

DT: We've already got a big JUCO DT committed and are at the top (lets say top 3) for Todd Barr, Kevin McReynolds, Danny Shelton, Delvon Simmons, and Mo Latu. Add one or two of these guys to Ricky, Ebert, Remington, and Big Wade and we're set for a long time at DT...

WR: We already have Tacoi and it's looking likely that we've got Devon Blackmon on board as well. Add to that a list of: Marquise Lee, BJ Kelley, George Farmar, Anthony Denham, Rashaan Vaughn, Duron Carter, Hakeem Flowers, Devin Lucien and Michael Thomas... again, any one or two of those guys would be HUGE gets for the Ducks now and into the future.

TE: Lyerla, French, Pomee, Fulse, Davis, Mills...
DE: Lyerla, Scarlett, Barr, Jason Gibson, Koa-Ka'ai, Pagan, Townsend and Branden Jackson...
RB: Tra Carson and Biggelow...
LB: Lamar Dawson, Lyerla, Willingham...

By my count thats 30 players, still unsigned, ALL 5, 4, or high 3 star recruits that are all looking VERY seriously at Oregon. Would anyone be shocked if ANY of these guys committed tomorrow? I know I wouldn't be.

That's not even counting the random, under-the-radar recruit or two that we always pull out...

It's a great year to be following Oregon recruiting!

One of the things I remember a lot of posters talking about last year was how Azz needed more time in Eugene first and that we would see an uptick in recruiting from him. Glad to see that a lot of these hosses are high on Oregon

Great info guys thanks.

If we can talk a few of these (and current commits) into grey-shirting than maybe we can take more of these players. I can dream right?

Good stuff...

That is all outstanding news especially about Todd Barr. He's got to be the #1 interior lineman on our board but I'd kind of written him off as everything out there indicated he was a pretty heavy Cal lean. To hear his best trip was Eugene and he almost committed is awesome! With Heimuli, Keliikipi, Hart, and Ebert, all we really need is one prep DT and that position is in really good shape.

With so many WR options out there, I really think DE is becoming our #1 need for the rest of this class. We need at least 2 more in addition to Kamp.

Unmentioned in my first post, and apropos to the OP...

It's been said for awhile that Barr and Vili "Tiny" Moala (lmao kid's - 6-2/326) could be a package deal... Obviously people here want that beef in the middle, but so far Jhop and others have said that we're no longer in it for him...

Obviously just speculation, but I'd have to think that a NC game and landing his buddy could improve our odds dramatically w/ him...

^ Tiny is probably my favorite out of all our recruits on my updated wish list and if they are a package deal that would be unbelievable if we land them both BUT it also works against us big time!

We will see...

Is it just me or does it seem like our staff never made Moala a priority? I'm not even sure he ever got a legitimate offer from us and I know our staff prefers quicker attacking lineman over the hulking space-eater types. Despite being a 5* I'm not sure how well he fits our scheme.

PDXShogun wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like our staff never made Moala a priority? I'm not even sure he ever got a legitimate offer from us and I know our staff prefers quicker attacking lineman over the hulking space-eater types. Despite being a 5* I'm not sure how well he fits our scheme.

I've felt that way too and I think you're right...

Still, scheme or no scheme, it's hard to deny that one of our weaknesses, maybe our biggest weakness on D, is our ability to stuff the run, specifically up the middle. That's not likely to improve with Paysinger, Matthews, Bair, Clark, Turner, and Rowe all leaving... Also, say what you want about his deficiencies (not hard to see or diagnose) but TJax the 3rd is our best corner against the run, he's gone as well...

It's probably a fan- and video game-esque fantasy, but I'd have to think Vili's size and strength would help stop the run and open lanes for our other, more athletic DLmen and LBs

glazeduck wrote:

PDXShogun wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like our staff never made Moala a priority? I'm not even sure he ever got a legitimate offer from us and I know our staff prefers quicker attacking lineman over the hulking space-eater types. Despite being a 5* I'm not sure how well he fits our scheme.

I've felt that way too and I think you're right...

Still, scheme or no scheme, it's hard to deny that one of our weaknesses, maybe our biggest weakness on D, is our ability to stuff the run, specifically up the middle. That's not likely to improve with Paysinger, Matthews, Bair, Clark, Turner, and Rowe all leaving... Also, say what you want about his deficiencies (not hard to see or diagnose) but TJax the 3rd is our best corner against the run, he's gone as well...

It's probably a fan- and video game-esque fantasy, but I'd have to think Vili's size and strength would help stop the run and open lanes for our other, more athletic DLmen and LBs

This is why I don't like NA. You take a guy like Vili and make packages around him. Just like the Ravens actually utilize the unreal strengths of Haloti (not saying Vili = HN), when you've got a guy that excels in eating up blockers, (especially with a heavy fire zone team like we are) you fricking use him! This isn't a case of building around a player instead of the team concept, but my goodness, in 2 of CK's 3 losses, a major component was not being able to stop the run right up the middle. You can put him in multiple schemes in our current D without having to sacrifice anything imo as the big knock would be fatigue but we already rotate so many guys period.

PDXShogun wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like our staff never made Moala a priority? I'm not even sure he ever got a legitimate offer from us and I know our staff prefers quicker attacking lineman over the hulking space-eater types. Despite being a 5* I'm not sure how well he fits our scheme.

Yeah my source from the beginning has said that UO coaches have a few DT they like better for what we like to do. I think they have him in the middle of the board.

Duck07 wrote:

glazeduck wrote:

PDXShogun wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like our staff never made Moala a priority? I'm not even sure he ever got a legitimate offer from us and I know our staff prefers quicker attacking lineman over the hulking space-eater types. Despite being a 5* I'm not sure how well he fits our scheme.

I've felt that way too and I think you're right...

Still, scheme or no scheme, it's hard to deny that one of our weaknesses, maybe our biggest weakness on D, is our ability to stuff the run, specifically up the middle. That's not likely to improve with Paysinger, Matthews, Bair, Clark, Turner, and Rowe all leaving... Also, say what you want about his deficiencies (not hard to see or diagnose) but TJax the 3rd is our best corner against the run, he's gone as well...

It's probably a fan- and video game-esque fantasy, but I'd have to think Vili's size and strength would help stop the run and open lanes for our other, more athletic DLmen and LBs

This is why I don't like NA. You take a guy like Vili and make packages around him. Just like the Ravens actually utilize the unreal strengths of Haloti (not saying Vili = HN), when you've got a guy that excels in eating up blockers, (especially with a heavy fire zone team like we are) you fricking use him! This isn't a case of building around a player instead of the team concept, but my goodness, in 2 of CK's 3 losses, a major component was not being able to stop the run right up the middle. You can put him in multiple schemes in our current D without having to sacrifice anything imo as the big knock would be fatigue but we already rotate so many guys period.

Don't think it's coach NA at all . I think it's coach Azz and maybe Chip, who prefers the taller more athletic DT's.

Bigducker wrote:

Duck07 wrote:

glazeduck wrote:

PDXShogun wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like our staff never made Moala a priority? I'm not even sure he ever got a legitimate offer from us and I know our staff prefers quicker attacking lineman over the hulking space-eater types. Despite being a 5* I'm not sure how well he fits our scheme.

I've felt that way too and I think you're right...

Still, scheme or no scheme, it's hard to deny that one of our weaknesses, maybe our biggest weakness on D, is our ability to stuff the run, specifically up the middle. That's not likely to improve with Paysinger, Matthews, Bair, Clark, Turner, and Rowe all leaving... Also, say what you want about his deficiencies (not hard to see or diagnose) but TJax the 3rd is our best corner against the run, he's gone as well...

It's probably a fan- and video game-esque fantasy, but I'd have to think Vili's size and strength would help stop the run and open lanes for our other, more athletic DLmen and LBs

This is why I don't like NA. You take a guy like Vili and make packages around him. Just like the Ravens actually utilize the unreal strengths of Haloti (not saying Vili = HN), when you've got a guy that excels in eating up blockers, (especially with a heavy fire zone team like we are) you fricking use him! This isn't a case of building around a player instead of the team concept, but my goodness, in 2 of CK's 3 losses, a major component was not being able to stop the run right up the middle. You can put him in multiple schemes in our current D without having to sacrifice anything imo as the big knock would be fatigue but we already rotate so many guys period.

Don't think it's coach NA at all . I think it's coach Azz and maybe Chip, who prefers the taller more athletic DT's.

Seems to me that with a big run stuffing guy in the middle (wouldnt have to be super "athletic") it would force teams to the edges, playing right into our scheme of a speedy/athletic defenders.... but what the hell do I know? I thought we were gonna be lucky to be bowl eligible after losing Masoli

brich75 wrote:WOW I DONT THINK i HAVE EVER SEEN A LIST OF GUYS LIKE THAT SO HIGH ON OREGON AT THE SAME TIME!?!?

I'd still take Colt over any of those guys.