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Logically you would think the recent success particularly this season would make Oregon the school a lot of top recruits would want to go to but in the last few days USC and Cal have been cleaning up. Tony on DSA said there are a lot of good things to come with recruiting to close out the season and the Ducks should finish with a top 10 maybe even a top 5 class. I hope that ends up being the case because it is frustrating to see all of these top guys choose schools that can't win games, I know there are sometimes other reasons for choosing a school other than winning but come on. I said I wouldn't get worked up this recruiting season because even with not as highly rated guys coming to Oregon the Ducks are winning so that is what is important but it is still frustrating.

A little off-topic but why did Tony leave DT? Wasn't the the original creator?

Yeah i agree with the Original Poster. It is really starting to piss me off! lol. But I have been following Ducks recruiting since the Harrington Fiesta Bowl season and this is pretty much how it goes every year so I guess this is just how it is.

gofightingducks wrote:Logically you would think the recent success particularly this season would make Oregon the school a lot of top recruits would want to go to but in the last few days USC and Cal have been cleaning up. Tony on DSA said there are a lot of good things to come with recruiting to close out the season and the Ducks should finish with a top 10 maybe even a top 5 class. I hope that ends up being the case because it is frustrating to see all of these top guys choose schools that can't win games, I know there are sometimes other reasons for choosing a school other than winning but come on. I said I wouldn't get worked up this recruiting season because even with not as highly rated guys coming to Oregon the Ducks are winning so that is what is important but it is still frustrating.

Which guys are you disappointed about losing? None have really been shockers at this point.
Bigelow - Was committed to UW, was interested in us but wasn't really a position of need.
Farmer - Life long USC fan, lives near USC, again... not a surprise.
Barr - Tosh strikes again, but it didn't surprise me.
Walls (possibly) - We are pretty booked at Safety, so the depth chart may be an issue.
Gibson - Again, Tosh... but it still seems like we are in it with a lot of highly rated D-Linemen.

While it is frustrating to see USC and Cal doing well, we are also doing pretty well. It looks like we should finish strong and really we haven't had many misses yet. I am still very optimistic about how this class will finish.

karlhungis wrote:

gofightingducks wrote:Logically you would think the recent success particularly this season would make Oregon the school a lot of top recruits would want to go to but in the last few days USC and Cal have been cleaning up. Tony on DSA said there are a lot of good things to come with recruiting to close out the season and the Ducks should finish with a top 10 maybe even a top 5 class. I hope that ends up being the case because it is frustrating to see all of these top guys choose schools that can't win games, I know there are sometimes other reasons for choosing a school other than winning but come on. I said I wouldn't get worked up this recruiting season because even with not as highly rated guys coming to Oregon the Ducks are winning so that is what is important but it is still frustrating.

Which guys are you disappointed about losing? None have really been shockers at this point.
Bigelow - Was committed to UW, was interested in us but wasn't really a position of need.
Farmer - Life long USC fan, lives near USC, again... not a surprise.
Barr - Tosh strikes again, but it didn't surprise me.
Walls (possibly) - We are pretty booked at Safety, so the depth chart may be an issue.
Gibson - Again, Tosh... but it still seems like we are in it with a lot of highly rated D-Linemen.

While it is frustrating to see USC and Cal doing well, we are also doing pretty well. It looks like we should finish strong and really we haven't had many misses yet. I am still very optimistic about how this class will finish.

None of those loses have been a surprise but there was talk that the Ducks had made a late push on most of them and I would have thought the Ducks standing compared to those others might push the Ducks over the top. It is just frustrating to see top talent waste away at Cal when they could be studs at Oregon.

This happens every single year. You're not going to get every single kid on your wishlist. Especially when the Ducks are competing with 4 or 5 other schools that or in close proximity for the same recruits. This class is going to be better than we've ever had, i don't understand the freaking out by everyone. As far as I'm concerned, if a kid loves Cal or SC & feels like a great fit there then he probably wouldn't be a good fit here. There's plenty of tremendous, smart players that are able to see beyond the glitz & glam of LA or the... whatever the hell it is they see in Cal & appreciate what we have at Oregon. Those are the guys that make up an undefeated Duck team right now and those are the guys I want.

dthomas=ddixon wrote:This happens every single year. You're not going to get every single kid on your wishlist. Especially when the Ducks are competing with 4 or 5 other schools that or in close proximity for the same recruits. This class is going to be better than we've ever had, i don't understand the freaking out by everyone. As far as I'm concerned, if a kid loves Cal or SC & feels like a great fit there then he probably wouldn't be a good fit here. There's plenty of tremendous, smart players that are able to see beyond the glitz & glam of LA or the... whatever the hell it is they see in Cal & appreciate what we have at Oregon. Those are the guys that make up an undefeated Duck team right now and those are the guys I want.

Word!! Well said!

dthomas=ddixon wrote:This happens every single year. You're not going to get every single kid on your wishlist. Especially when the Ducks are competing with 4 or 5 other schools that or in close proximity for the same recruits. This class is going to be better than we've ever had, i don't understand the freaking out by everyone. As far as I'm concerned, if a kid loves Cal or SC & feels like a great fit there then he probably wouldn't be a good fit here. There's plenty of tremendous, smart players that are able to see beyond the glitz & glam of LA or the... whatever the hell it is they see in Cal & appreciate what we have at Oregon. Those are the guys that make up an undefeated Duck team right now and those are the guys I want.

Again, I am not freaking out or even upset by what we have seen over the last few days because those guys have been leaning towards other schools all along I am just having a difficult time finding the appeal of Cal. Yes it is a nice campus with nice weather and good academics but most of these kids are not going to school for academics so that shouldn't give Cal an edge of Oregon. Both Cal and Oregon have been about the same in terms of putting guys into the NFL as of late so that doesn't give Cal an edge. Oregon has a beautiful campus so again no edge...... it must come down to the weather, proximity to home and playing for a coach you can play X-Box with! Oregon will most likely end up with their best class ever and fill the positions of need but I guess Oregon will always lose more than they gain regardless of how good they are because it rains and the campus is not located in a big city.

gofightingducks wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote:This happens every single year. You're not going to get every single kid on your wishlist. Especially when the Ducks are competing with 4 or 5 other schools that or in close proximity for the same recruits. This class is going to be better than we've ever had, i don't understand the freaking out by everyone. As far as I'm concerned, if a kid loves Cal or SC & feels like a great fit there then he probably wouldn't be a good fit here. There's plenty of tremendous, smart players that are able to see beyond the glitz & glam of LA or the... whatever the hell it is they see in Cal & appreciate what we have at Oregon. Those are the guys that make up an undefeated Duck team right now and those are the guys I want.

Again, I am not freaking out or even upset by what we have seen over the last few days because those guys have been leaning towards other schools all along I am just having a difficult time finding the appeal of Cal. Yes it is a nice campus with nice weather and good academics but most of these kids are not going to school for academics so that shouldn't give Cal an edge of Oregon. Both Cal and Oregon have been about the same in terms of putting guys into the NFL as of late so that doesn't give Cal an edge. Oregon has a beautiful campus so again no edge...... it must come down to the weather, proximity to home and playing for a coach you can play X-Box with! Oregon will most likely end up with their best class ever and fill the positions of need but I guess Oregon will always lose more than they gain regardless of how good they are because it rains and the campus is not located in a big city.

When it comes to recruiting and 18 year old kids, nothing is ever going to make sense. They are very impressionable and don't always see the big picture. You sometimes have to be lucky that they have an advisor who gets them to see clearly or they already have that big picture in them.

I agree 100% with karlhungis all these commits are hardly a suprise, so there not really big losses in my mind. We just need to finish with these dt's and wr's and should have a good class.

Just wondering. Wasn't the common wisdom around here that UO tends to recruit next year's class on this year's results? It could be that the class of 2011 is based off of what happened in 2009-2010, off the Rose Bowl team. If that's the case, we're in for a great recruiting season in the summer/fall of 2011 (coaches can rant and rave about the team then when it matters.)

hjpop wrote:Just wondering. Wasn't the common wisdom around here that UO tends to recruit next year's class on this year's results? It could be that the class of 2011 is based off of what happened in 2009-2010, off the Rose Bowl team. If that's the case, we're in for a great recruiting season in the summer/fall of 2011 (coaches can rant and rave about the team then when it matters.)

Yes, so Cal's recruiting class is based off of last year's 8-5 record with a Poinsettia Bowl loss. Impressive what they can do based off of that year. Imagine if they actually ever win the conference.

bellsduck wrote:

hjpop wrote:Just wondering. Wasn't the common wisdom around here that UO tends to recruit next year's class on this year's results? It could be that the class of 2011 is based off of what happened in 2009-2010, off the Rose Bowl team. If that's the case, we're in for a great recruiting season in the summer/fall of 2011 (coaches can rant and rave about the team then when it matters.)

Yes, so Cal's recruiting class is based off of last year's 8-5 record with a Poinsettia Bowl loss. Impressive what they can do based off of that year. Imagine if they actually ever win the conference.

I doubt we would see any change since they seem to be able to get whoever they want no matter how bad they are. Of course, they will never win the conference with Tedford as HC while we have Chip as ours.

I think it's crucial that we get a few more wide receivers in this class. Blackmon, Kelly and Vaughn would be nice.

duckgrad99 wrote:I think it's crucial that we get a few more wide receivers in this class. Blackmon, Kelly and Vaughn would be nice.

The lone remaining spots that have yet to be filled are DT and WR. I think Oregon will start landing them once January hits and the all-star games are played.