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got one.. why not 4 more.

Enough all ready.

Nothing is wrong with them at all. The guy we got is a stud. In recent memory though, our JC DT recruits have had trouble qualifying academically. JT Thompson for instance.

Nick Fairley was a JC DT, so I don't think there's anything wrong them.

Since the PAC10 tightened academic stndards, it has become more difficult for both JC and HS athletes to qualify. Things such asthetype of online classes offered/accepted enter into that equation.

This forces the U of O to be more selective, not only concerning the quality of athlete, but in the case of JCs, the quality of institution they are coming from.

Certain JCs do not meet the same standards for graduation that are necessary to qualify for the PAC10.

Thompson was from one of those.

The SEC and Big 12 have somewhat different academic qualification standards than the PAC 10-12, and it is possible some of their JC transfers, such as Fairely, may not have qualified here.

Myles Wade, who was surrounded by controversy and innuendo over his failure to enter Oregon, ended up at Texas Tech with little problem.

Is the conference the problem here, why is there not a national standard? WE can argue that our educational standards are better but who cares if we lose on the field because that's all that matters in sports!

Big advantage to the other conferences taking advantage of the this...

briarduck wrote:Is the conference the problem here, why is there not a national standard? WE can argue that our educational standards are better but who cares if we lose on the field because that's all that matters in sports!

Big advantage to the other conferences taking advantage of the this...

In fairness to Wade and a couple others, the Ducks implemented the new PAC 10 standards a season or so early... Still, it's a definite advantage taken away from the PAC10.

I wonder if OSU gets Ocho qualified under these rules?

woundedknees wrote:

briarduck wrote:Is the conference the problem here, why is there not a national standard? WE can argue that our educational standards are better but who cares if we lose on the field because that's all that matters in sports!

Big advantage to the other conferences taking advantage of the this...

In fairness to Wade and a couple others, the Ducks implemented the new PAC 10 standards a season or so early... Still, it's a definite advantage taken away from the PAC10.

I wonder if OSU gets Ocho qualified under these rules?

Ya I felt bad for Wade he does everything asked of him to qualify and they change the standards on him after the fact...pretty crappy on the conference to let this happen and not have a fall back (override or something) for players/students who did what was asked of them.

I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches have another JC DT or big DE on the radar beyond Ebert. If we whiff on McR, Heward and Simmons we will be in dire straits and i'm sure the coaches have a backup plan.

vagusnerve wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches have another JC DT or big DE on the radar beyond Ebert. If we whiff on McR, Heward and Simmons we will be in dire straits and i'm sure the coaches have a backup plan.

The coaches will get some DTs this year that will help next season and in the future. I think we'll get at least one of the ones you mentioned and then possibly 2 others that haven't been talked about in awhile or at all.

I don't think it's 100% on the new Pac-10 standards. UO is still in the dark ages when it comes to on-line classes and in a lot of cases they don't recognize those credits, which I think is stupid. This last year the only reason Huff was questionable is because of a couple of on line classes. UO needs to get with 2011 and get on line more.

buckmarkduck wrote:I don't think it's 100% on the new Pac-10 standards. UO is still in the dark ages when it comes to on-line classes and in a lot of cases they don't recognize those credits, which I think is stupid. This last year the only reason Huff was questionable is because of a couple of on line classes. UO needs to get with 2011 and get on line more.

online classes = googling answers Online classes are a joke and as a member of the Pac 10/12, our conference is always going to have the highest academic standards, and frankly, I don't see a single problem with that.

going back to the problem with recruiting JC DTs, it stems from now you have to spend each recruiting cycle going out looking for more DTs, they have less time in the program which usually means they have less impact and sometimes at 20-22, coming into a new system can be harder for them to adjust and/or "buying into" the coaches/plan can be difficult for a young kid whose only coach has been his hs coach.. The list of JC DL that have flopped for us is larger than those who have panned out. I remember spending one summer watching film with Dexter Manley and trying to get him to work on being able to get upfield without over-pursuing and it was hard for him. Guy had a lot of speed and strength but he couldn't grasp how to utilize it. As a result, he was primed for playing hs/jc ball where you can get by with only speed and bull rushes

The Pac 10, Big 10 and ACC have higher academic standards than either the Big 12 or the SEC for athletes. I know that in the Big 12, each program is allowed to take two prop 48 players per class. My guess is that there's no limit in the SEC.

Ebert is fine academically. He has a 3.0 GPA and supposedly goes to a reputable community college.