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People have thrown ideas as to why we "decided to go in another direction" with Wilson's scholly. I've seen "grades"? "to make room for another recruit"? "Attitude problems"?

My theory is probably just more digging into rabbit hole #2 (from the theories above). Maybe my homerism is leading me to connect dots that don't really exist, but I think the pieces fit anyway...

What if Wilson's scholarship was conditional? What if the coaches said "look, we like you, but we have a need for immediate impact LBs for next season, and we see you more as a developmental LB, SO, here are the guys we've identified as immediate impact guys, if we miss out on ___ many of these guys, we will have a scholarship open for you."

If Wilson really liked us, a response of "I want to be a Duck, I will accept the offer if it comes" could be interpreted as a 'verbal commitment'... Essentially, they could've said "we're holding a spot for ___, if they don't come, you've got an offer"... I have to imagine things like that happen a lot in recruiting.

So my thinking, why now? Why so late in the recruiting season? Well, if Lamar Dawson (an immediate impact LB - [read: with French and Colt, there's no guarantee that either WILL be LBs next season, at least not yet]) gave the coaches a silent verbal recently - since he's announcing his decision soon - the coaches, instead of slow playing this Wilson situation to make sure things "look good", could simply have told him ASAP in order for him to have a chance to get recruited somewhere else (doesn't that sound like a Chip Kelly decision? Not the popular or 'good looking/sounding' decision, but ultimately what's best for the kid, program, etc.)

Like I said, this could be homerism and reading clues that aren't really there, but this seems to make sense to me. We absolutely NEED LBs in this class. Yes we've got a few, but Coleman could play safety, Lyerla and French could both play just about anywhere, several others either look like developmental projects or are rehabbing injuries and thus are doubtful to be counted on next year...

But I can't help but think that this stuff w/ Wilson makes me a little more optimistic on our chances with Dawson!

If I remember right: The guys over at Scout knew something was up with his offer from the very beginning and Steve I believe it was stated he would not be a Duck. That's why they didn't list him as a commit.

I don't know what they knew, so I can't help with your theory except to say there was something off about his commitment/offer from the very beginning.

I don't think it has anything to do with Dawson. I think that Hardick was probably the one that ended up with Wilsons spot. I hope you are correct and it means good things with Dawson, however I remain skeptical.

Here's a little more info.


"They basically over signed for this class at linebacker," Wolfpack coach Dennis Manning said. "At the time Kyrie committed, they probably didn't even know what kind of year they were going to have and how many other players would be interested in going there. Plus Kyrie has some academic issues he's still working on but of course they knew that when he first committed.

"They talked about a greyshirt option but then took that off the table. Things are fine though, surprisingly, Kyrie is so even keel, he's not even worried about it. I thought he and his mother might be upset but he's totally fine and said he might wait to sign after signing day to make sure he's making the right choice and is no hurry at all right now."

"He's a great player and was just named the defensive player in the league this past season. He runs so well, he's a legit 4.5 guy and is a great pass rusher. He plays the run well too but he loves getting after the quarterback and I think his upside is off the charts. He'll land on his feet and play some big-time football for someone at the next level."

The Duck coaches must feel very confident in what they have or what their getting.

GrandpaDuck wrote:If I remember right: The guys over at Scout knew something was up with his offer from the very beginning and Steve I believe it was stated he would not be a Duck. That's why they didn't list him as a commit.

I don't know what they knew, so I can't help with your theory except to say there was something off about his commitment/offer from the very beginning.

I remember Marty saying that he was confident that Wilson would never be a Duck.

Bigducker wrote:Here's a little more info.


"They basically over signed for this class at linebacker," Wolfpack coach Dennis Manning said. "At the time Kyrie committed, they probably didn't even know what kind of year they were going to have and how many other players would be interested in going there. Plus Kyrie has some academic issues he's still working on but of course they knew that when he first committed.

"They talked about a greyshirt option but then took that off the table. Things are fine though, surprisingly, Kyrie is so even keel, he's not even worried about it. I thought he and his mother might be upset but he's totally fine and said he might wait to sign after signing day to make sure he's making the right choice and is no hurry at all right now."

"He's a great player and was just named the defensive player in the league this past season. He runs so well, he's a legit 4.5 guy and is a great pass rusher. He plays the run well too but he loves getting after the quarterback and I think his upside is off the charts. He'll land on his feet and play some big-time football for someone at the next level."

The Duck coaches must feel very confident in what they have or what their getting.

I would be surprised if they get another, but they could since we don't know how they are factoring in French and/or Lyerla into their LB depth numbers.

Dawson is staying East.

there are no theories with Kyrie Wilson. he and his coach are pretty much doing a media cover-up why. stop with the nonsense and move on.

correct. Time to move on.

hines wrote:there are no theories with Kyrie Wilson. he and his coach are pretty much doing a media cover-up why. stop with the nonsense and move on.

I agree with Hines here.

Nothing about the coaches story adds up.

On the other hand, if you look at the following factors it sure seems obvious that a legit offer was never on the table:

1 educk dudes say he is not a commit and will never be a duck from day 1

2 wilson is totally fine with it and not the least bit upset

3 his grades are super iffy

4 there's been controversy over his commitment since day 1

Because the coaches can't comment on recruiting, I'd make my bet that they had high interest in him at one time and had discussed on offer. But I seriously doubt they made a full offer and revoked it. It just doesn't add up.

ok...to clarify....his coach stated in the Bakersfield paper "....first, he's got to academically qualify...."

He does not have the necessary marks. Yet. He may well make it, but that had something to do with it.

From some of the things I read in various places it sounded like he was going to have a qualifing issue and that he would've been a greyshirt canidate or a real project at best.My theory is that he maybe have had a conditional offer and that's why he committed so early.