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As most people know, scout recently dropped Anthony Wallace down to a 4 star recruit, Colt down to a 4 star (about a month ago), and Tacoi Sumler down to a 3 star. However, they did bump up Tra Carson to a 4 star. Scout is also the only major recruiting service that has Christian French as a 3 star recruit.

In addition, they now have Washington commit Kasen Williams as a better wide receiver recruit than George Farmer.

The newest development involves former Oregon recruit Avery Walls. Walls has been dropped to a 3 star recruit, despite having an impressive list of offers. Looks like Fetters became uncomfortable with the fact that Cal was having a better recruiting class than UW. Expect a few more UW commits to receive the "Fetters bump" after national signing day.

I think that Cal came into Fetters crosshairs when Bigelow dropped the Hussies for Cal. Kasen Williams rated higher than Farmer is laughable. Oh well, it looks like UW will be loaded with Fetters all-stars again. That sure has been working out well for them.

Fetters= Crapzano of recruiting

Yep, loaded with Fetter's four star Cody Bruns' type recruits.

karlhungis wrote:I think that Cal came into Fetters crosshairs when Bigelow dropped the Hussies for Cal. Kasen Williams rated higher than Farmer is laughable. Oh well, it looks like UW will be loaded with Fetters all-stars again. That sure has been working out well for them.

Didn't even think about that.

I forgot that Bigelow was dropped to a 3 star recruit after he decommitted from UW

Maybe a bit.

One difference though between Scout and Rivals is it "appears" to me that Scout gives heavier weight to high school game productivity whereas Rivals gives greater weight to camp and all-star game performance.

In the case of both French and Sumler, they didn't have big production Senior years. Tra Carson did and got upgraded. Sumler transferred to a school that barely throws for his Senior year. French is fairly new to playing football and some of the locals say he hasn't developed ball skills yet.

It would be interesting to take a list of players with great camp numbers and little Game stats and compare it to a list of players know to be the opposite and see if my theory holds across a larger sample.

Before Hines comes in here to justify the fact that he blows $10/mo on their services, I'll point out a few things that he (and scout) always like to point out.

-Star rankings are not done by Fetters himself - it's collaborative effort.
-Fetters does not have the final say in regards to star rankings
-Brandon Huffman has a lot of power, etc.....

I think that Huffman is a solid recruiting "analyst", but clearly Fetters has a lot of say in regards to players from the West/ones being recruited by West Coast programs.

The best example of one of Fetters' "Northwest All Stars" in UW's current class is Taniela Tupou. Tupou hails from Everett, WA which is part of the Seattle metro area. Scout generously awarded Tupou a "4 star ranking", despite only having offers from UW, Washington St, and BYU. All other major recruiting services had Tupou as a 3 star recruit.

Regardless of whom controls the Scout star ratings, it's been my feeling for years that Scout has the most inaccurate qualitative rating system of the major services. I put more stock in Rivals along with the offer list of a recruit. I've always felt that the offer list needs to have it's own score or at least factor in to the rating. Perhaps CFBMatrix could help me design one.

Don't blame Fetters, Scout uses the BCS computers for rating players.

I think it has less to do with Fetters & more to do with Scout as a whole being pretty inconsistent & inaccurate. But I don't think you can deny the way UW recruits are overrated almost every year. Especially with guys like Bigelow who spurn the Huskies & almost immediately drop in ranking.

It's annoying as fans that we have to question the intent of ratings of UDUB players, but at least Scout isn't the only recruiting source out there so we can balance it out.

TheMaehlMan wrote:It's annoying as fans that we have to question the intent of ratings of UDUB players, but at least Scout isn't the only recruiting source out there so we can balance it out.

The only reason I ever go on to a site like Educk is to browse the recruit database since it's very easy to use and I can get a good baseline on the players being recruited. Rivals has more in-depth scouting and better rankings so I use their database more.

uostudent wrote:

karlhungis wrote:I think that Cal came into Fetters crosshairs when Bigelow dropped the Hussies for Cal. Kasen Williams rated higher than Farmer is laughable. Oh well, it looks like UW will be loaded with Fetters all-stars again. That sure has been working out well for them.

Didn't even think about that.

I forgot that Bigelow was dropped to a 3 star recruit after he decommitted from UW

Bigelow is a legit 5* talent, the fact that he is a 3* on Scout is joke. I do NOT look forward to playing him.

fecta23 wrote:

uostudent wrote:

karlhungis wrote:I think that Cal came into Fetters crosshairs when Bigelow dropped the Hussies for Cal. Kasen Williams rated higher than Farmer is laughable. Oh well, it looks like UW will be loaded with Fetters all-stars again. That sure has been working out well for them.

Didn't even think about that.

I forgot that Bigelow was dropped to a 3 star recruit after he decommitted from UW

Bigelow is a legit 5* talent, the fact that he is a 3* on Scout is joke. I do NOT look forward to playing him.

...except that he may never see the field against the Ducks due to injury. He seems injury prone to me.

Before Hines comes in here to justify the fact that he blows $10/mo on their services, I'll point out a few things that he (and scout) always like to point out.

l love how some just get so scared of any reply i might have. boo.

i haven't paid for scout in almost one month. conspiracy #2 defeated quite easily.

and 3rdly, I explained why i don't get into the star non-sense last month. go dig up that gem and smoke on it. this is just damn laughable to me.

edit: what's even more funny to me is the title of your post: Fetters strikes again...

and then in your 2 subsequent posts you debunk your own title and first post. god that makes my job and everyone else's so damn easy. dog piling on stupid has never been so fun!