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USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:30 pm
by duck541
It's been said that USC has been recruiting players by telling them that the sanctions against them will be lessened after their hearing tomorrow. Assuming this doesn't happen, do we stand a chance of flipping a few current USC commits?
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:34 pm
by sx1080
duck541 wrote:It's been said that USC has been recruiting players by telling them that the sanctions against them will be lessened after their hearing tomorrow. Assuming this doesn't happen, do we stand a chance of flipping a few current USC commits?
no. because the results of the hearing wont be revealed until after signing day. All sanctions are stayed until such time.
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:39 pm
by duck541
Oh, Thanks. I was under the impression the results would be released right away.
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:48 pm
by duck55
If it wasn't USC, results might get leaked by 'accident' before LOI day.
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:50 pm
by Braveheart
Recruits would still be able to jump out of their LOI's like Seantrel if they make a big enough fuss (IMO). With that being said, wouldn't some of you think that the USC staff has informed them (recruits) that the case might not go their way?
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:42 pm
by greenyellow
Braveheart wrote:Recruits would still be able to jump out of their LOI's like Seantrel if they make a big enough fuss (IMO). With that being said, wouldn't some of you think that the USC staff has informed them (recruits) that the case might not go their way?
It would be stupid of them not to tell the recruits about the appeal's chances. Garrett seems like an upstanding guy and probably has already instructed the coaches to tell prospective recruits this.
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:46 pm
by Braveheart
greenyellow wrote:Braveheart wrote:Recruits would still be able to jump out of their LOI's like Seantrel if they make a big enough fuss (IMO). With that being said, wouldn't some of you think that the USC staff has informed them (recruits) that the case might not go their way?
It would be stupid of them not to tell the recruits about the appeal's chances.
Garrett seems like an upstanding guy and probably has already instructed the coaches to tell prospective recruits this.

I'm sure you meant Haden? I don't think he had to tell them, I'm sure the coaches are smart enough.
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:30 pm
by GrandpaDuck
Braveheart wrote:greenyellow wrote:Braveheart wrote:Recruits would still be able to jump out of their LOI's like Seantrel if they make a big enough fuss (IMO). With that being said, wouldn't some of you think that the USC staff has informed them (recruits) that the case might not go their way?
It would be stupid of them not to tell the recruits about the appeal's chances.
Garrett seems like an upstanding guy and probably has already instructed the coaches to tell prospective recruits this.

I'm sure you meant Haden? I don't think he had to tell them, I'm sure the coaches are smart enough.
From the ESPN article on recruiting co-ordinators:
Writes McGee:
There was a time -- a very long time -- when Orgeron would have been the undisputed number one on this list.
But a trail of issues has followed him from one school to another. Some say that's simply the result of his aggressive personality (
example: his current selling point to recruits is that USC will beat their current NCAA bowl ban and scholarship restrictions when they win their pending appeal). Others say he lives life with a "ready, shoot, aim" mentality that is a blatant disrespect of authority.
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:50 pm
by dthomas=ddixon
The NCAA could ban USC from college football & Orgeron & Kiffen would come up with such good spin they'd convince all their commits to stick with SC.
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:51 pm
by Braveheart
GrandpaDuck wrote:Braveheart wrote:greenyellow wrote:Braveheart wrote:Recruits would still be able to jump out of their LOI's like Seantrel if they make a big enough fuss (IMO). With that being said, wouldn't some of you think that the USC staff has informed them (recruits) that the case might not go their way?
It would be stupid of them not to tell the recruits about the appeal's chances.
Garrett seems like an upstanding guy and probably has already instructed the coaches to tell prospective recruits this.

I'm sure you meant Haden? I don't think he had to tell them, I'm sure the coaches are smart enough.
From the ESPN article on recruiting co-ordinators:
Writes McGee:
There was a time -- a very long time -- when Orgeron would have been the undisputed number one on this list.
But a trail of issues has followed him from one school to another. Some say that's simply the result of his aggressive personality (
example: his current selling point to recruits is that USC will beat their current NCAA bowl ban and scholarship restrictions when they win their pending appeal). Others say he lives life with a "ready, shoot, aim" mentality that is a blatant disrespect of authority.
Thanks for the link, but I'm sure we're all aware that he's told recruits that he's confident about the ruling. The point that I'm making is, I'm sure he's informed the same recruits that there is a chance that they will lose also.
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:56 pm
by duck55
Braveheart, I never vouch for someone I don't personally know. I would find it hard to say someone is telling others one thing or another without knowing first hand it is true. I am assuming that you 'believe' they are telling the recruits unless you are associated with the program somehow.
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:10 pm
by Braveheart
duck55 wrote:Braveheart, I never vouch for someone I don't personally know. I would find it hard to say someone is telling others one thing or another without knowing first hand it is true. I am assuming that you 'believe' they are telling the recruits unless you are associated with the program somehow.
The same could be said for the claims that he hasn't informed them (recruits). I am connected to a couple players, but not the school. Have they informed me of the matter, no, do i care, no. It's just logic, the odds were always against them, I doubt the whole staff would be stupid enough to not tell them that there is atleast a 1% that they could lose the appeal.
Thank you for the words of the advice (which I do understand).
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:01 pm
by Bigducker
Braveheart wrote: wouldn't some of you think that the USC staff has informed them (recruits) that the case might not go their way?
Total opposite. Orgeron's been telling the recruits their going to beat the sanctions !
"Orgeron's current selling point to recruits is that USC will beat its current NCAA bowl ban and scholarship restrictions when it wins its pending appeal"
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:32 pm
by greenyellow
Braveheart wrote:greenyellow wrote:Braveheart wrote:Recruits would still be able to jump out of their LOI's like Seantrel if they make a big enough fuss (IMO). With that being said, wouldn't some of you think that the USC staff has informed them (recruits) that the case might not go their way?
It would be stupid of them not to tell the recruits about the appeal's chances.
Garrett seems like an upstanding guy and probably has already instructed the coaches to tell prospective recruits this.

I'm sure you meant Haden? I don't think he had to tell them, I'm sure the coaches are smart enough.
Yeah, that's who I meant.
Re: USC's NCAA hearing
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:52 pm
by Supreme
Braveheart wrote:Recruits would still be able to jump out of their LOI's like Seantrel if they make a big enough fuss (IMO). With that being said, wouldn't some of you think that the USC staff has informed them (recruits) that the case might not go their way?
Because Kiffin wasn't telling recruits last cycle that USC would receive little more than a slap on the wrist?