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Regarding the battle for Simmons may be coming down to USC vs. Oregon...

Does the Pac12 have a minimum SAT score requirement for athletes? Both being members of the Pac-12 am I mistaken to think both Oregon and USC have the same minimum SAT requirements for admission?

Oregon SAT score admission requirements are at http://admissions.uoregon.edu/apply/gpachart.htm

However, I could not find any similar chart on USC website. Does USC keep their admissions test score requirements a secret and/or not make specific admission criteria public?

From http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergradu ... dards.html

"There is no minimum requirement or absolute cutoff for grades, class rank or test scores. USC evaluates prospective students through an individualized, comprehensive review process that takes these, and many other factors, into account."

WoodyDuck wrote:USC evaluates prospective students through an individualized, comprehensive review process that takes these, and many other factors, into account."

Other factors including 40 time, vertical....etc.

karlhungis wrote:

WoodyDuck wrote:USC evaluates prospective students through an individualized, comprehensive review process that takes these, and many other factors, into account."

Other factors including 40 time, vertical....etc.

I think it is safe to say that whatever his test score is, as a ***** it will be high enough.

karlhungis wrote:

WoodyDuck wrote:USC evaluates prospective students through an individualized, comprehensive review process that takes these, and many other factors, into account."

Other factors including 40 time, vertical....etc.

Hilarious

NCAA does have minimum GPA/ACT/SAT score requirements... According to this chart, if Simmons has a solid 2.5 core GPA, his SAT needs to be 820.

https://web1.ncaa.org/eligibilitycenter ... ndards.pdf

"Division I has a sliding scale for test score and grade-point average."

DIVISION I
16 Core Courses:
4 years of English.
3 years of mathematics (Algebra I or higher).
2 years of natural/physical science (1 year of lab if offered by high school).
1 year of additional English, mathematics or natural/physical science.
2 years of social science.
4 years of additional courses (from any area above, foreign language or nondoctrinal religion/philosophy).

NCAA DIVISION I SLIDING SCALE
CORE GRADE-POINT AVERAGE/
TEST-SCORE
New Core GPA / Test Score Index
Core GPA SAT ACT
Verbal and Math ONLY

(The first number is the GPA, the second and third are the matching SAT and/or ACT scores necessary to qualify with that GPA)

3.550 & above 400 37
3.525 410 38
3.500 420 39
3.475 430 40
3.450 440 41
3.425 450 41
3.400 460 42
3.375 470 42
3.350 480 43
3.325 490 44
3.300 500 44
3.275 510 45
3.250 520 46
3.225 530 46
3.200 540 47
3.175 550 47
3.150 560 48
3.125 570 49
3.100 580 49
3.075 590 50
3.050 600 50
3.025 610 51
3.000 620 52
2.975 630 52
2.950 640 53
2.925 650 53
2.900 660 54
2.875 670 55
2.850 680 56
2.825 690 56
2.800 700 57
2.775 710 58
2.750 720 59
2.725 730 59
2.700 730 60
2.675 740-750 61
2.650 760 62
2.625 770 63
2.600 780 64
2.575 790 65
2.550 800 66
2.525 810 67
2.500 820 68
2.475 830 69
2.450 840-850 70
2.425 860 70
2.400 860 71
2.375 870 72
2.350 880 73
2.325 890 74
2.300 900 75
2.275 910 76
2.250 920 77
2.225 930 78
2.200 940 79
2.175 950 80
2.150 960 80
2.125 960 81
2.100 970 82
2.075 980 83
2.050 990 84
2.025 1000 85
2.000 1010 86

Those are Prop 16/48 Clearinghouse rules. My posted inquiry was more granular to the conference and institutional level. That is:

1. Does the PAC-12 have minimum SAT score requirements which exceed the NCAA minimums?

2. Do the schools of the Pac-12 each have their own individual SAT score minimums?

I'm pretty sure all pac-10 teams have the same cut-off except for Stanford. I could be wrong.

It really amazes me that so many recruits fail to qualify. Those numbers are not at all hard to achieve unless you're just innately stupid, or, more likely, you just don't work at all on your academics. I mean, even if you get the minimum 2.0 GPA, you still only have to score 500s on the SAT reading and math sections (well, one 510), which is no more than the average score for all test takers. Is it really that hard to pull Cs and be average on the SAT? Or, better yet, get a few Bs and not even have to be average?

Here is a 2008 article on PAC10 entry standards, posted by everybody's favorite writer, Jon Wilner, on this exact subject... It has some interesting numbers, to say the least, but also does not point out that there are definitely exceptions to the rules at most institotions.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespo ... l-schools/

*** Now, for all the Pac-10 football programs

* GPAs

Stanford: 3.63
UCLA: 3.15
Oregon: 2.94
Cal: 2.93
Wash: 2.86
Ore St: 2.84
USC: 2.80
Wash St: 2.80
Ariz: 2.76
Ariz St: 2.76

* SATs

Stanford: 1176
UCLA: 990
Cal: 984
Ore: 969
Wash: 963
USC: 955
Ariz: 948
Ariz St: 937
Ore St: 928
Wash St: 920

These numbers came out about the same time Oregon began having issues qualifying DTs and some JC players.

Braveheart wrote:I'm pretty sure all pac-10 teams have the same cut-off except for Stanford. I could be wrong.

You are correct.

Admissions standards for athletes is the same across the board for all Pac 12 schools except Stanford.

In other threads, I have mentioned that I expect Branden Jackson to end up at Texas Tech. I don't think there is any way that he qualifies at a Pac (12) school. Simmons is borderline. He hasn't reported his SAT scores to the recruiting services and apparently had to retake it after bombing it on his first try. My guess is that Simmons will also end up at Texas Tech if he can't qualify to get into USC/Oregon.

Big 12 schools can take two partial qualifiers per year. I believe there's no limit in SEC. In the Pac 10, ACC, and Big 10, teams cannot take PQ's (or prop 48 players).

Big 12 schools can take two partial qualifiers per year. I believe there's no limit in SEC. In the Pac 10, ACC, and Big 10, teams cannot take PQ's (or prop 48 players).[/quote]
Wow! Talk about an uneven playing field!

If you cant score above an 800 on your SAT's there a sliiiiight chance you might be retarded.